[Steppes] Saree History or garb in general

Wed Apr 16 07:16:15 PDT 2003

Ok.  I missed the list of urls on my system for some reason. I am still interested in the migration of garb from one part of the world to another given that there seems to be considerable differences in what was worn.   I suspect much had to do with practicality and climate-  I doubt a thin material made much sense to someone from Medieval Europe in the middle of a geological cooling period.    Would someone from a different part of the world have continued to wear their traditional garb or would they have adapted? and did Europeans adopt and adapt garb from other parts of the world?  I know that there were individuals captured and sent back to Europe during the Crusades and the various wars pending ransom so that may have been one source of influence.

Jacques

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From: Gerita <hpockets at verizon.net>
Sent: 04/16/03 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [Steppes] Saree History or garb in general

>
> Jacques, i think that was a list of urls for the history of Indian Sarees
and Persian Salwar chameez.  Interesting, but useless for the French.
Poulaines were also interesting. . . . .

Gerita

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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Steppes] Saree History or garb in general

did not see an attachement with this.  I am curious now about what matches
and what does not in terms of persona, period, and garb since I have been
starting to try to zero in more on my own (male) garb to the proper period
and region of Europe to match the persona I am developing.  Period or
fashion police do not worry me <as those that know me acknowledge :-) >
but
I would like to know more about the way such things would filter into
Europe
since that is where my persona is based. Gotta admit, though, I do not
think
I want to try the long toed shoes with the toes attached to the knees.
Seems impractical and I am less than graceful as it is.  :-)

To formalize my question, though- how much dress from other parts of the
world filtered into Europe and when?  Can someone help me out on this?  I
am
sure much was hinged on the Crusades and the voyages of exploration and I
have seen some of the references indicating what a Frank noble would wear
and the like but little on the migration of garb from other parts of the
world.

Jacques

-------Original Message-------
From: ORDERS_DONITA_L at lilly.com
Sent: 04/16/03 09:01 AM
To: steppes at ansteorra.org
Subject: [Steppes] Saree History

>
> Lookie!!!

Lady Alienor, you have totally come thru!!!!

I wanted to pass this along for everybody who wants to wear a Sari for
Warlord.  The question of "Period?" came up....well, guess what?
How about 5,000 years of history?
This site is a great brief history, pics included.....should even make a
period policeman happy.
I guess documenting a 5-9 yard length of fabric with no cuts or stitches
is
pretty easy, huh?

Many thanks to Lady Francseca for asking the question and Lady Alienor for
providing the answer!!!

Toryn
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