[Steppes] Fwd: [Ansteorra] Youthful Combatants
Trish Kvamme
ladyoftherose at hotmail.com
Sat Jan 1 08:46:09 PST 2005
Thank you Morgan, and you are 100 percent correct.
Earl Sir Duncan can also answer alot of these questions as he ran a large
martial arts & Boxing studio in Sierra Vista Arizona for several years.
My son (16) will be out there and is looking forward to it. It is an
activity he can do besides roam with a pack of other teenagers and appeals
to him more than standing and watching, or the small arts and sciences
functions we make available to our kids.
If we want to keep our kids interested in the SCA, we have to include them.
Larissa
>From: "Michael Smith" <morganbuchanan at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Barony of Steppes - SCA, Inc." <steppes at ansteorra.org>
>To: "Barony of Steppes - SCA, Inc." <steppes at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [Steppes] Fwd: [Ansteorra] Youthful Combatants
>Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:12:40 -0600
>
>Incorrect assumption. Virtually any martial activity has some limited
>participation between age groups. Golden Gloves boxing allows 16 and 17
>year olds. THey're simply groupsed into their regular weight classes.
>Judo, karate...all the same. I was participating as a 14 year old in adult
>judo tournaments.
>
>The legal issue is that there are written guidelines and safety
>percuations.
>We have those things firmly in place. There will be no problem. CAN we
>get
>sued? SURE! We CAN get sued because someone has a bad time at 12th Night.
>But it's not likely they'll win.
>
>Ask Sir Alexis if you'd be interested in relevant legal precedents in Texas
>and Oklahoma. But I know for a fact that the international martial arts
>organizations I'm a life member of have never been successfully sued in
>this
>manner MERELY for a 16 or 17 year old being injured. The price is keeping
>a
>constant eye on following your regulations.
>
>The beauty of this rule, of course, is that a parent of a 16 and 17 year
>old
>who DOES feel strongly that their child should not participate can keep
>them from it. Since teh propopsed authorization process will require the
>child to auth personally with the KINGDOM Earl Marshal at this point,
>that's
>a pretty fine control.
>
>Just my opinions, such as they are, not being the father of any child, but
>was once that child. :) In fact, I didn't start in the SCA when I WANTED
>to because the rules at the time required me to be 18. By the time I
>turned
>18, I had lost interest.
>
>Morgan
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Susan Hill" <sueorintx at hotmail.com>
>To: <steppes at ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 12:01 PM
>Subject: RE: [Steppes] Fwd: [Ansteorra] Youthful Combatants
>
>
> > true, but those dont involve people of often significantly bigger
>persons
>in
> > armor swinging sticks. Therre is actually a huge difference. Most of
>those
> > activities have weight/age classes or experience classes. They won't
>involve
> > a 140 lb 16 year old rookie against a 290 lb duke who has been fighting
>for
> > 20 years....HUGE difference.
> >
> > Linet
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Trish Kvamme" <ladyoftherose at hotmail.com>
> > Reply-To: "Barony of Steppes - SCA, Inc." <steppes at ansteorra.org>
> > To: steppes at ansteorra.org
> > Subject: RE: [Steppes] Fwd: [Ansteorra] Youthful Combatants
> > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:42:51 +0000
> >
> > Pop Warner Football, Karate, Judo, Ballett shall I go on :)
> >
> > Any sport or activity where minors are involved, in fact those
>activities
> > are less stricly supervised :)
> >
> > Larissa
> >
> > >From: "Susan Hill" <sueorintx at hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Barony of Steppes - SCA, Inc." <steppes at ansteorra.org>
> > >To: steppes at ansteorra.org
> > >Subject: RE: [Steppes] Fwd: [Ansteorra] Youthful Combatants
> > >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:14:05 -0600
> > >
> > >My chief concern is that, if the minor is injured, is Children's
>Protective
> > >Services going to go after the parent/guardian for allowing the child
>to
> > >participate in the activity; or will they go after the SCA group? All
>the
> > >waivers in the world won't protect from something like that. As a
>parent
>of
> > >a teenaged boy, and, having had a 'contact' made by Children's Services
>in
> > >another state over something much more benign, I give a lot more
>thought
>to
> > >things like this than a lot of people might. I would be very hesitant
>to
> > >allow my son to 'play with the big boys' in a contact activity like
>this.
> > >Fortunately he hasn't shown much interest in fighting, just archery and
> > >thrown weapons.
> > >
> > >Linet
> > >
> > >----Original Message Follows----
> > >From: "John Mays" <john_l_mays at hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Barony of Steppes - SCA, Inc." <steppes at ansteorra.org>
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> > >Subject: RE: [Steppes] Fwd: [Ansteorra] Youthful Combatants
> > >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:24:47 -0600
> > >
> > >As soon as a minor is hurt, who is going to get sued...
> > >The adult.
> > >
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