[Western] Subject: Re: Status of Western Region dissolutions

[estarkey at camalott.com]

I asked for clarification from the Acting Kingdom Seneschal, and although 
you have to read from the bottom of this letter up, what I asked, and the 
reply, I believe that it answers your question about activities. I have to 
do some research on how to properly have activities without being a group, 
and I believe that Pavel is writing the Acting Kingdom Seneschal  to get his 
input.

HE AmaRyah


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <faolon at sallegarnes.com>
To: <western at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Western] Status of Western Region dissolutions


> Merely a question for clarification as i was not at 12th night.
> Are you actually stating that these groups stop all activity now, until a
> decision can be reached on whether or not they have enough activity to
> remain a shire, or am I reading this message wrong.
>
> Ld Faolon Muirchu
>
>
>
>
>> Good Morning,
>>
>>
>>
>>   As discussed with those present at Bonwicke 12th night, this will be
>> announced in Their Majesties Ulsted and Ebergardis' final court at
>> Coronation this Saturday.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Western Region administrative entity is dissolved effective January
>> 12th, 2008.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Shires of Adlersruhe, An Loch, Blacklake, Crossrode Keep and
>> Mendersham
>> are suspended pending Society resolution.  These groups must cease
>> organized
>> SCA-sponsored activities until such time as the matter is resolved.
>> Access
>> to the group accounts and financial records must be turned over to the
>> Kingdom Exchequer until the groups are dissolved or restored by the
>> Corporate level.  As I have tried to make clear in my appeal 
>> informational
>> messages, it should be fairly obvious that unfortunate behavior during
>> this
>> period cannot fail to dilute the value of pleadings for restoration to
>> full
>> status.
>>
>>
>>
>>   After further discussions with the Society Seneschal, the final review
>> of
>> the dissolution of these groups will occur at the April Board meeting and
>> not the January Board meeting as originally stated.
>>
>>
>>
>> In Service,
>>
>> Master Phelim Gervase called Pug
>>
>> Acting Kingdom Seneschal
>>
>
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pug Bainter" <pug at pug.net>
To: <estarkey at camalott.com>
Cc: "'Larry Pendleton'" <gulesaxe at clearwire.net>; "'Master Phelim Gervase 
called Pug'" <seneschal at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:16 AM
Subject: RE: [mendershamshire] Group suspensions


> The Kingdom Calendar is held by the Seneschal's office, not the Kingdom
> Chronicler. Because the groups are suspended, their dates on the calendar
> have been removed pending the outcome of the investigation, and they will 
> be
> re-instated should the outcome be in your favor.
>
> Regarding all other activities, they must stop. Yes, this includes demos,
> fighter practices and populace meetings. I do not see a need to remove
> existing fliers, but do not put up new ones. Should you need to field 
> phone
> calls and are unwilling, please direct them to Trelac or the Kingdom
> Hospitaler.
>
> I requested the Seneschal to continue to hold the polling however they had
> planned to hold it. If this was at the time and place of the group's
> previous populace meeting, that is fine.
>
> In Service,
> Master Phelim Gervase called Pug
> Acting Kingdom Seneschal
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: estarkey at camalott.com [mailto:estarkey at camalott.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:55 PM
>> To: pug at pug.net
>> Cc: Larry Pendleton
>> Subject: Re: [mendershamshire] Group suspensions
>>
>> Unto Master Phelim Gervase called Pug,
>>
>> Please clarify "cease organized SCA-sponsored activities".
>>
>> Of course we will not disburse any funds, that would be fiducially
>> irresponsible, and leave me, as an officer of the corporation who is
>> responsible for the monies, open to legal redress if any question of
>> impropriety of disbursement arose.
>>
>>  We have no events nor demos planned at this time, either on-calendar
>> events
>> nor off-calendar events.  Our annual event is not planned until May, and 
>> I
>> believe that the Kingdom Chronicler has or will have removed it from the
>> Kingdom Calendar by the next BlackStar.  Does this mean that we must
>> resubmit our date if our group is restored?  Should I direct this inquiry
>> to
>> the Kingdom Chronicler?
>>
>>  If we are requested to provide a demo during this time, does that mean
>> that
>> we must tell the asking entity that we are unable to provide one?  Are we
>> forbidden to hold a membership drive or a demo, inferring in any way that
>> it
>> is for the SCA?  Should I remove any flyers advertising the SCA?
>>
>> Are we not allowed to have our official SCA fighter practice?  Would this
>> be
>> because we have no officers because we are all removed from office at 
>> this
>> time?  If the fighter practice is not official, for any of the affected
>> groups, have you notified the waiver secretary to not expect waivers
>> during
>> this period?
>>
>> Are we not allowed to hold populace meetings?
>>
>> Are our officers required not to report, because they have been removed 
>> as
>> officers?  How can we fulfill the reporting requirements of our group
>> during
>> this time if we are required not to report?
>>
>> I know that you are very busy, and I apologize for taking your time, but
>> we
>> do need written clarification of these questions, so the proper 
>> procedures
>> will be followed.  Please feel free to send this letter and your response
>> to
>> the other groups suspended, if you feel it might answer or clarify 
>> further
>> these issues.
>>
>>
>> HE AmaRyah
>> Exchequer, Mendersham
>>