<div><span class="gmail_quote">Have tried those they don't work. Look at the Gulf War meeting. Look at the bod meeting in Dallas. Byron </span></div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">on 9/10/08, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:seneschal@sca.org">seneschal@sca.org</a></b> <<a href="mailto:seneschal@sca.org">seneschal@sca.org</a>> wrote:</span></div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br>Worthies:<br><br>The below email constitutes auditable documentation that the sender has no<br>grasp whatsoever of the most basic channels for complaint and appeal.<br>
<br>The below letter is dismissed outright as it could have been written by<br>anyone.<br><br>If the party sending it has actually been sanctioned, their channel for<br>appeal is the Board of Directs. This appeal must be done so to the<br>
sanctioning officer's superior, in writing, to the corporate office by the<br>1st of october if it is to be considered and reported to the Board at the<br>next Board meeting.<br><br>Appeals are most often successful when they fail to include threats of<br>
litigation.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>George Reed<br>VP Operations, SCA, Inc.<br><br><br><br><br>> This is my reply to a letter from the Ansteorra Kingdom Seneschal and the<br>> Kingdom Treasurer. I do not consider this to be a private matter.<br>
><br>> ryah<br>><br>><br>> Dear Mr. Bainter,<br>><br>> Email is indeed the best way to get in touch with me. I check it a<br>> lot<br>> more often than I check my mailbox. When I did pick up my mail, your<br>
> letter<br>> had already been returned by the post office.<br>><br>> In reply to the list of "infractions" that led up to a decision of<br>> Administrative Sanction, I reply the following:<br>
><br>><br>> 1. Removal from office as Mendersham's Exchequer in 2003 for failure to<br>> maintain complete and accurate reporting<br>><br>> Please check your records. Mendersham's treasurer in 2003 was not<br>
> removed<br>> from office. I was not removed as treasurer in 2003, as I was not the<br>> treasurer of the group at that time. I personally have never been removed<br>> from any SCA office. The first time I have ever been treasurer of an SCA<br>
> group began Jan 2006. Ben Findley was the treasurer from 2004 to 2006,<br>> Dallas Mathews was the treasurer from 2002 to 2004.<br>><br>> 2. * Co-mingling of personal and SCA funds in the form of the gate funds<br>
> which included directly removing funds without proper process.<br>> . This statement is untrue. I did not mingle personal and SCA funds in<br>> the<br>> form of gate funds, and I have not ever removed funds without proper<br>
> process. You have no proof that I did so. Please provide written or<br>> verifible proof that I mingled personal and SCA funds or retract this<br>> statement. Hearsay statements do not count.<br>><br>> 3. Reporting funds incorrectly on report forms including returned money<br>
> and<br>> fees as income.<br>> This was one incident, and the first time that I had a returned check.<br>> At<br>> that time, I recorded the funds on the form exactly as the treasurer<br>> before<br>> me had recorded returned money and fees from a bounced check. This item<br>
> was<br>> discovered by the Kingdom treasurer at the audit in January 2008 on the<br>> 4th<br>> quarter report, and I was told at the time it was a minor thing. It had<br>> been on both the 2d quarterly report and the 3d quarterly report.<br>
><br>> 4. Incomplete financial committee with one member with an expired<br>> membership. Membership was not expired, although I did have difficulty<br>> getting a copy of the current membership card and sending it up channels.<br>
><br>> 5. Incomplete signature card without anyone outside of the group on the<br>> card.<br>> I sent signature cards for this account up through the chain of command<br>> twice. I do not see how it is my fault that the Kingdom Exchequer of that<br>
> time was not doing her job by completing the process, and making sure that<br>> they are on the signature card.<br>><br>> 6. Not following proper procedure to escalate issues within the structure<br>> of the SCA, Inc. when items were not being properly addressed.<br>
> I was told to transfer the shire's funds. I requested and recieved the<br>> proper authorization as per the Society Exchequer's Handbook for Branches,<br>> and promptly transfered the funds.<br>><br>
> 7. Displayed a lack of understanding of the policies that were violated<br>> and in at least one case how you had violated the policy.<br>><br>> What I truly understand is that you wish to punish me for standing up and<br>
> saying you are wrong to dissolve Mendersham, for saying that you had no<br>> valid reason to do so, and for repeatedly asking for specific instances<br>> that<br>> would justify your actions under Corpora, Kingdom Law, and the official<br>
> handbooks. There are no funds missing from Mendersham, and the funds were<br>> not mishandled.<br>><br>> What you need to truly understand is that I will bring civil suit against<br>> Richard Bainter and Celeste Shelton personally and as officers of the<br>
> Society for Creative Anachronism for defamation of character should this<br>> administrative sanction be imposed.<br>><br>> Elaine Starkey<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Master Phelim Gervase called Pug" <<a href="mailto:seneschal@ansteorra.org">seneschal@ansteorra.org</a>><br>> To: <<a href="mailto:estarkey@camalott.com">estarkey@camalott.com</a>><br>
> Cc: <<a href="mailto:seneschal@ansteorra.org">seneschal@ansteorra.org</a>>; "'Saundra Kingdom Exchequer'"<br>> <<a href="mailto:exchequer@ansteorra.org">exchequer@ansteorra.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:Crown@ansteorra.org">Crown@ansteorra.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:coronet@ansteorra.org">coronet@ansteorra.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:57 PM<br>> Subject: Administrative sanction<br>><br>><br>>> We attempted to have this delivered via the normal channels and the<br>>> letter<br>>> was not picked up after 4 attempts by the US Postal service to deliver.<br>
>> Since it was not picked up I am sending it via email instead.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> In Service,<br>>><br>>> Master Phelim Gervase called Pug<br>>><br>>> Kingdom Seneschal - Ansteorra<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> June 24, 2008<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Ama Ryah hap Illys de Visclo c/o<br>>><br>>> Elaine Starkey<br>
>><br>>> 843 CR 170<br>>><br>>> Trent, TX 79561<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Richard Bainter Celeste<br>>> Shelton<br>>><br>
>> 2100 Ringtail Ridge 2112 Fall<br>>> Creek Drive<br>>><br>>> Austin, TX 78746 Leander,<br>>> TX<br>>> 78641<br>
>><br>>> 512-329-6908<br>>> 512-259-2369<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Dear Madam:<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> After reviewing different paperwork and a meeting with you at the<br>
>> April<br>>> 2008 Board Meeting, it has been decided that you should have an<br>>> Administrative Sanction levied against you because of your actions while<br>>> holding administrative office for SCA, Inc. The incidents that led up to<br>
>> this decision include:<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> * Removal from office as Mendersham's Exchequer in 2003 for failure to<br>>> maintain complete and accurate reporting<br>>> * After re-appointment to office after several years out of office,<br>
>> there were continued office related problems<br>>> * Co-mingling of personal and SCA funds in the form of the gate funds<br>>> which included directly removing funds without proper process<br>>> * Reporting funds incorrectly on report forms including returned money<br>
>> and fees as income<br>>> * Incomplete financial committee with one member with an expired<br>>> membership<br>>> * Incomplete signature card without anyone outside of the group on the<br>>> card<br>
>> * Not following proper procedure to escalate issues within the<br>>> structure of the SCA, Inc. when items were not being properly addressed<br>>> * Displayed a lack of understanding of the policies that were violated<br>
>> and in at least one case how you had violated the policy<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Because of these reoccurring mistakes and lack of understanding within<br>>> the<br>>> offices you have held and a basic lack of understanding of Society and<br>
>> Kingdom policies, we are levying the following:<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Elaine Starkey, known in the Society as Baroness Ama Ryah hap Illys de<br>>> Visclo, shall never be allowed to hold the offices of Seneschal or<br>
>> Exchequer<br>>> or to be a deputy of either office. In addition Ms. Starkey shall never<br>>> be<br>>> in a position that allows her access to or control of disbursement of<br>>> SCA<br>>> funds to include, but not be limited to, financial committee member,<br>
>> account<br>>> signatory, and gate cashier.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> This decision has been discussed with the Society Seneschal in order to<br>>> ensure that it is appropriate for the infractions and within the scope<br>
>> of<br>>> responsibility of our offices.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Sincerely,<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Richard Bainter Celeste<br>
>> Shelton<br>>><br>>> Master Phelim Gervase called Pug Mistress Saundra of<br>>> Loch Raeburn<br>>><br>>> Kingdom Seneschal - Ansteorra Kingdom Exchequer -<br>
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