[Sca-cooks] Oranges from Isabella

Daniel & Elizabeth Phelps dephelps at embarqmail.com
Sat Mar 29 10:54:44 PDT 2008

Thank you! I have been curious for a long time about the history of all 
citrus, and have had a running "discussion" (;-) with Dan about which ones 
are in our period. The only one we have both agreed on was lemons.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnna Holloway" <johnna at sitka.engin.umich.edu>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Oranges

> Actually the history of citrus fruits is much more complicated than that.
> It's not so much regional as it is one of crosses and hybrids and grafts
> that were
> then used to produce new fruits. Farmers have been playing around
> with citrus fruits for thousands of years.
> Until such time as the books are unboxed and I do another edition of my 
> own
> oranges book, I would suggest taking a look at: the new book titled:
> Citrus by Pierre Laszlo. University of Chicago Press.
> Online there's also:
>> Reuther, Walter, Herbert John Webber, and Leon Dexter Batchelor. /The
>> Citrus             Industry/. Revised Edition. Riverside, CA:
>> University of California. Division             of Agricultural
>> Sciences, 1967. Volume I: History, World Distribution,
>> Botany, and Varieties. http://lib.ucr.edu/agnic/webber/
> Hope this helps
> Johnna
>> Stefan li Rous wrote:
>>> These (sour oranges, blood oranges, sweet oranges) are three
>>> different varieties and originally came from different regions. I
>>> don't believe any of them are ancestors of the others. We've
>>> discussed oranges a number of times. All are available if you know
>>> where to look. The grapefruit does appear to be a hybrid, though. And
>>> yes, I believe limes and key limes are talked about in this file as
>>> well.
>>> Perhaps this might be of interest:
>>> fruit-citrus-msg (112K) 12/21/06    Period citrus fruits. Recipes.
>>> http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD-FRUITS/fruit-citrus-msg.html
>>> Stefan
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