Early Dance

Hollie Hoffman hhoffman at castaway.cc.uwf.edu
Fri Oct 20 10:45:45 PDT 1995


At 17:53 10-19-95 -0500, ansteorra at eden.com wrote:
>Greetings unto Duncan,
>
>Who said,
>
>> What about gypsies? They seem to be found all over Europe at any given
>> time.  They may not fit the billing of "professional dance troupe", but
>> what the hey, right?  We're fishing for ideas!
>
>Not quite correct. They migrated through Europe in the middle of our
>period. I believe the time period in question was a bit earlier than
>this.
>
>To quote from a message in my file from the last time Gypsies were
>discussed on the Rialto:
>
>>>>>
>According to Clebert, they advanced from India into Persia sometime
>before the 10th Century.  In the 1300's they were officially reported
>in Crete (1322), Corfu (1346), Serbia (1348) and the Peloponnese (1378).
>In the 1400's, they were officially reported in  Basle (1414), Moldavia,
>Hungary and Transylvania (1417), Saxony and Augsburg (1418), France 
>(1419), Bologna and Rome (1422), Paris (1427), Barcelona (1447),
>Wales (1430 or 1440) and Scotland (1447 or 1505) -- the exact year
>of their appearances in Wales and Scotland were being contested.
>
>In the 1500's, gypsies were reported officially in Russia (1500),
>Poland (1509), England (1514), Sweden (1515) and Norway (1540).
>I use the word 'officially' in this context because Clebert points
>out:
>
>	"These dates mark the 'official' appearance of Gypsies;
>	a fact which must be emphasized.  It does not mean that
>	in reality the Gypsies had not arrived in Europe before
>	the authorities thought of mentioning them for the first
>	time, before the occurrence of some local event or other
>	with which their name was associated."
>
>In fact, other authors claim that Gypsies probably made their
>way in England in the 1430's, but valid documentation is lacking
>in these claims. 
><<<<<
>
>If anyone is interested in the complete file, just let me know.
>I'm in the process of updating this file, and only a short file is
>currently available at the Web site.
>
>Stefan li Rous
>markh at risc.sps.mot.com
>
>
I am interested in the file on gypsies.

Ananda Barineau Valiant da Firenze
hhoffman at castaway.cc.uwf.edu




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