<Damon<hughn at ssd.fsi.com (Hugh Niewoehner)>> >...The first Irish reference may be a problem. Not really, since I believe (although I can't document it) that it ultimately derives from the Saxon (or even the Norse) term. OTOH, in the "Real" world, titles get used as names occasionally (i.e. Jack Lord, Prince, David Duke, etc...) Diarmuit