ANST - Goof Toobs

stddly at stddly at
Tue Aug 26 22:18:15 PDT 1997

Heilsa Iago and all other Right and Good folk...

Kief here...writing from HL Lorraine's much abused account...

>Hell no.  
>Reason # 1.  You leave  kindeys, kneecaps, wrists, fingers and other easily
>damaged areas I'm sure I forgot unprotected.   I'm not sure what a thistle
>missle would do to a wrist, but it would do ugly things to a kneecap it
>caught sideways, or an unprotected kidney, or a finger holding a sword.  

Hmmmm...seems that you have a good point here. I've been personally shot many
times with Thistle Missiles (tm). Many of those shots were on skin with but one
or two layers of cotten cloth over my flesh. The TM's did leave a couple of 2
to 4 inch round bruises on my chest back and arms. Un protected kidneys and
such could take a bit of damage. I've also been hit in armored joints with
great swords and polearms... Even with the armor protecting my joints I don't
believe that TM's (tm) hit as hard as the heavy weapons... 'Course I'm a fairly
thick, muscular fellow. a person of slighter build may well take too much

>Reason # 2 The first or second dent in my face 16 guage perforated faceplate
>came from a foil.  I would not put it in front of thistle missles more than
>once.  schlagers ar bad enough.  

Ya, they do hit that hard, 'specially if fired at in a close range situation.

>Reason # 3 I know that arrows do on rare occassions get shot within ten feet.
> I've been hit with one before it completely left the bow.  A TM at that
>distance would have done more than hurt like *#@! . 

Maybeso...I've been shot with a TM at less that 15 feet... Left a 3 inch round
bruise on my chest but wasn't too painful. Although if it had been the solar
plexus I may have a different opinion right now... *smile*

>Reason # 4  When I initially brought this up to Haroun at Fall Melees when I
>was rapier MIC I refuse them because I didn't believ they were safe.  We
>agreed that they would be tested and evaluated from there.  I fully expected
>to be the target of evaluation, but since I was the one questioning them I
>had to observe, and Leah was the guinea pig.  The first and only TM fired
>from roughly 20-30 yards, hit her in the stomach and put her on her hands and
>knees, barely able to breath.   That is the only time that I have EVER heard
>her admit to being hit too hard.  
>After witnessing reason # 4,  I simply will not ever agree to thistle missles
>being used on the rapier field.
>Iago (who tries really hard to be open minded, but sometimes can't)

Thanks, Iago, for the candid response. I am in agreement with most every point
you made. Do you have an opinion on Balder Blunts (tm) yet? They seem to hit
"softer" than TM's. I like them much better than TM's...
Wael Thu Hael...

Sir Kief


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