ANST - Cloved Fruit and Etiquette, Redux

[Shane B.]

Don't HOLD BACK Gunnora!  Tell us how you REALLY feel!!! [grin]


Alastair

Gunnora Hallakarva wrote:
> 
> Stefan li Rous said of the development Bjornsborg Grenade Technique used
> with cloved fruit by Raimond Selenarctos:
> >IMHO, it is just another example that being a Peer does not automatically
> bestow
> >peerage qualities in every situation and that Peers can have human failings.
> 
> First, Raimond is not a peer.  He should be in my opinion, but he's not one
> at this point in time.
> 
> However, many of us who use the "grenade" method of dealing with cloved
> fruits are in fact peers and I for one will treat any cloved fruit I am
> given in the same time honored manner.  Nor do I think it in any way
> reflects "lack of peerage qualities" as Stefan suggests.
> 
> The problem here is not lack of courtesy or peerage qualities on the part
> of the person hurling the cloved fruit.  Rather, it is the unspeakable
> stupidity and lack of grace and politeness on the part of the person who
> bestowed the fruit on the hurler in the first place.  Those of us who will
> hurl the damned things do try to refuse the fruit politely first.
> 
> The "hurling" technique came in response to pushy, obnoxious, drunken
> Lothario-wannabes who don't know when NO means NO.  The cloved fruit game
> all too often deteriorated into plain sexual predation by the end of its
> life as a viable custom.  There were plenty of times when people tried to
> turn down a cloved fruit and simply had the kiss forced upon them anyway --
> even if it were only by verbal bullying under the guise of "don't be a
> spoilsport," which can be devastating for someone young, or shy, or
> insecure.  There are even more times when people indicated a kiss on the
> hand and were glommed onto and had open-mouthed kissing forced upon them.
> And even more commonly that that the obnoxious cloved fruit predator would
> use the kissing as an opportunity to grope.
> 
> Now, I don't know what response YOU would like to see a peer (or anyone
> else, for that matter) make to sexual predation and abuse of one's personal
> space, but the next person who does invade my personal space and force
> kissing or other sexual attentions on me under the pretext of a cloved
> fruit is going to be wearing about as many contusions and lacerations as
> there were cloves in the fruit -- IF I am am feeling charitable and nice
> about the whole thing.
> 
> I have found that the people who like the cloved fruit kissing game the
> most, and who clamor loudest for its reinstatement, tend to be the most
> repulsive, hideously unattractive, unwashed losers that American society
> has to offer.  Why this is, I don't know -- their cousins who know what a
> toothbrush and deodorant are for and who don't cause mirrors to shatter and
> clocks to stop when they walk by don't need a cloved fruit to get kissed,
> perhaps?  This is not always true -- some very nice people like the idea of
> the game as well. I guess.
> 
> As I have mentioned before, kissing games should be played ONLY with one's
> intimates -- that means your friends, your household members, people who
> you know will welcome the game.  If you just absolutely MUST force your
> attentions on a stranger, it is your responsibility to be as gallant and
> courtly as possible, and to accept NO as NO and leave it at that.
> 
> Nuke the Cloved Fruits and Let It Go At That!
> 
> Wæs Þu Hæl (Waes Thu Hael)
> 
> ::GUNNORA::
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