ANST - White Scarves as Peers?

[Chris Zakes]

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From: 	Gunnora Hallakarva[SMTP:giga!gunnora]
Sent: 	Tuesday, June 16, 1998 6:25 AM
To: 	giga!abmdata.com!cjz
Subject: 	ANST - White Scarves as Peers?

Baroness Caterina asked (in the context of the precedence discussions we've
been enjoying) about the possibility of the White Scarves becoming a
Peerage one day.

There are several problems with this, and these are usually not discussed
often, so this seems a good time to tick off the points of the discussion.
Note before I go any further that I am no partisan of any of these
arguments, I merely am reporting!  If you want my personal opinions on the
topic, come ask me directly.

Reasons Why White Scarves Aren't Peers Now and May Never Be Peers as an Order:

(Snip of an excellent set of reasons)

Commentary? Discussion?  I can see that this topic has the potential to
provide us with *days* worth of wrangling!


Mistress Gunnora has missed one important element in this discussion: historical accuracy. 

In the Renaissance, peerages were given for military leadership or "service to the state", not for individual fighting ability. For example, a knight at the court of Queen Elisabeth would almost certainly know how to handle a rapier, but *none* of the London Masters of Defence were knights.

	-Tivar Moondragon
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