[Ansteorra] SCA slang

Olivia G. Rodrigues ladyoliviar at lycos.com
Tue Apr 9 08:20:50 PDT 2002


Egads!
Now the perverbial excrement shall hit the windmill!
Nomadic trolls...spreading the use of non-period, non-SCA authorized terminology!  What IS this flat world coming to?  ;P

O.
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:00:58
 Lady Simone ui' Dunlaingh wrote:
>I can not speak on Ansteorran history 23 years ago. I was in another
>kingdom. It has now struck my curiosity on how the term Troll migrated. I
>can only speak from my experience. When I started playing in the West 23
>years ago the term was already in use in the far western regions of The
>kingdom ( Philippines ). when we moved to Calionter 20 years ago it was in
>use, and when I moved in to Ansteorra 11 years ago it was in use. now I am
>curious.
>
>I wonder could it have been started by nomadic trolls :-)
>
>Lady Simone Maurian ui' Dunlaingh
>simone at elfsea.net
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Morgan" <rmorgan at satx.rr.com>
>To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] SCA slang
>
>
>>     A great hypothesis based on the facts available, however when I joined
>> twenty three years ago it was kind of a mater of kingdom pride that we
>> didn't use these terms. One of the many justifications that I heard at
>that
>> time was what good Ansteorran would want to use terminology  invented by
>> fantasy elements from the Midrealm. In reality it did not matter where
>they
>> originated, because of the fact that sense these terms had not been in use
>> when we were new to the SCA  those of us from that time felt that they
>were
>> superfluous and silly and never developed an appreciation for them.. Just
>as
>> many of our newer folk that live in places where they are used find them
>> quaint and endearing. As for me, personally they make me cringe. Now if
>you
>> wanted to hear a dwarfish rant for about an hour or so, if you lived that
>> long, you could of had this discussion with Duke Lloyd, just refer to your
>> conveyance as a dragon.
>>      Now Pendaran, come on, His Grace was seldom seen when he played, he
>was
>> heard, and felt often, but seldom seen.
>>
>> Looming in the shadows,
>> Sir Richard ap Morgan
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chuck and Rhonda Leggett" <RLEGGETT at austin.rr.com>
>> To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] SCA slang
>>
>>
>> > If I may offer a personal observation, I believe that much of this
>> > good-natured controversy is the result of the changing demographics of
>the
>> > SCA.  The Society is no longer a group of (barely) twenty-something
>> college
>> > students, though (thankfully!) we still have many of that group.
>However,
>> > the median age has risen over the years, to the point that now the
>Society
>> > has a large content of somewhat older, more mature, more serious players
>> > that have more interest in the historically accurate aspects, rather
>than
>> > the fanciful, "playful" attitude of yesteryear. There are those who wish
>> to
>> > maintain the youthful attitudes of the "old days" when they joined (We
>all
>> > have a little Peter Pan in us, or we couldn't play).  One extreme sees
>the
>> > other as anal-retentive authenticity Nazis, while being themselves seen
>by
>> > the opposite extreme as childish and giddy.  Fortunately, either extreme
>> is
>> > very rare; this is perhaps the most tolerant group of people I've ever
>> known
>> > (or known of).
>> > For myself, I prefer to use the "proper" terms, but I find the "early
>> > Scadian" dialect amusing at worst; certainly not offensive.
>> > For example, when someone says "Troll Gate," my old and weak ears hear
>the
>> > word "Toll Gate."  It never occurs to me that some infidel is having a
>> > fantasy attack  After all, there's limited space in Bedlam; not every
>> > "special" citizen can be "kept safe!"
>> >
>> > Enough.
>> >
>> > Ever in service,
>> > Marion du Massue.
>> > House of Brick.
>> >
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