[Ansteorra] SCA slang

[Lady Simone ui' Dunlaingh]

I can not speak on Ansteorran history 23 years ago. I was in another
kingdom. It has now struck my curiosity on how the term Troll migrated. I
can only speak from my experience. When I started playing in the West 23
years ago the term was already in use in the far western regions of The
kingdom ( Philippines ). when we moved to Calionter 20 years ago it was in
use, and when I moved in to Ansteorra 11 years ago it was in use. now I am
curious.

I wonder could it have been started by nomadic trolls :-)

Lady Simone Maurian ui' Dunlaingh
simone at elfsea.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Morgan" <rmorgan at satx.rr.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] SCA slang


>     A great hypothesis based on the facts available, however when I joined
> twenty three years ago it was kind of a mater of kingdom pride that we
> didn't use these terms. One of the many justifications that I heard at
that
> time was what good Ansteorran would want to use terminology  invented by
> fantasy elements from the Midrealm. In reality it did not matter where
they
> originated, because of the fact that sense these terms had not been in use
> when we were new to the SCA  those of us from that time felt that they
were
> superfluous and silly and never developed an appreciation for them.. Just
as
> many of our newer folk that live in places where they are used find them
> quaint and endearing. As for me, personally they make me cringe. Now if
you
> wanted to hear a dwarfish rant for about an hour or so, if you lived that
> long, you could of had this discussion with Duke Lloyd, just refer to your
> conveyance as a dragon.
>      Now Pendaran, come on, His Grace was seldom seen when he played, he
was
> heard, and felt often, but seldom seen.
>
> Looming in the shadows,
> Sir Richard ap Morgan
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck and Rhonda Leggett" <RLEGGETT at austin.rr.com>
> To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] SCA slang
>
>
> > If I may offer a personal observation, I believe that much of this
> > good-natured controversy is the result of the changing demographics of
the
> > SCA.  The Society is no longer a group of (barely) twenty-something
> college
> > students, though (thankfully!) we still have many of that group.
However,
> > the median age has risen over the years, to the point that now the
Society
> > has a large content of somewhat older, more mature, more serious players
> > that have more interest in the historically accurate aspects, rather
than
> > the fanciful, "playful" attitude of yesteryear. There are those who wish
> to
> > maintain the youthful attitudes of the "old days" when they joined (We
all
> > have a little Peter Pan in us, or we couldn't play).  One extreme sees
the
> > other as anal-retentive authenticity Nazis, while being themselves seen
by
> > the opposite extreme as childish and giddy.  Fortunately, either extreme
> is
> > very rare; this is perhaps the most tolerant group of people I've ever
> known
> > (or known of).
> > For myself, I prefer to use the "proper" terms, but I find the "early
> > Scadian" dialect amusing at worst; certainly not offensive.
> > For example, when someone says "Troll Gate," my old and weak ears hear
the
> > word "Toll Gate."  It never occurs to me that some infidel is having a
> > fantasy attack  After all, there's limited space in Bedlam; not every
> > "special" citizen can be "kept safe!"
> >
> > Enough.
> >
> > Ever in service,
> > Marion du Massue.
> > House of Brick.
> >
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