[Ansteorra] Stolen (Borrowed?) Items

Tue Apr 30 15:53:41 PDT 2002

M'lord,

I did not take HE Pendaran's remarks as any insult except for the (what seemed to be) belittling of the theft.  I wasn't being petty (I sincerely detest pettiness and besides, at Mexico prices, the value was negligible!) I was only reporting that there was an incident to, shall we say, CMOAWA (if you don't know, ask me privately).  I didn't want to be held liable should any incident or injury have occured with anyone'drunk' on ill gotten gains that came from my camp.

Olivia

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:29:12
 Rob rose wrote:
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>Don't we think we are all being a bit touchy?  We all know that Pendaran
>wasn't saying that stealing is ok.  Even if it was only beer.  I'm not saying
>it's ok either.  So why don't we all sit back and calm down a second.
>Stealing is a serious offense, one that i'm sure none of us would tolerate if
>we saw it happening.  On a religious note, the SCA embraces all forms of
>religeon.  This does not mean that you can perform any rite that would cause a
>member of the SCA to participate in simply by observing. It has no bearing on
>this, but i just thought i'd throw that in just for the sake of arguement.
>Let's not turn beer stealing into a religeous crusade.  Someone stole some
>beer from the lady, for that i have to say i am sorry for your misfortune.
>Coming out here and announcing that you are a practicioner of the craft,
>Wicca, buddhism, or a satanist has no bearing.  I thought the camel thing to
>be highly out of place, so i made a joke out of it.  But let's be serious a
>moment.  We all know that Pendaran would not advocate the stealing of another
>person's propety.  Be it a Crown, or a beer.  So with that in mind, while his
>reply may have been lacking in tact, so was mine, and so far so has everything
>i have seen since, at least on this thread.  including my own statements.  Let
>me put it plainly.  We don't advocate stealing.  We have no right to say
>anything about a person's religeon whether we agree or disagree.  But let's
>have a modicum of respect for those who do disagree.  And let's try to use a
>little more tact.
>
>At this time i don't think i would reccomend that any new person get on this
>list.  Not with all of the bickering that goes on.
>
>Ian Macleod
>>From: "Harris Mark.S-rsve60"
>>Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
>>To: "'ansteorra at ansteorra.org'"
>>Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Stolen (Borrowed?) Items
>>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:49:11 -0700
>>
>>Pendaran declared:
>> > Umm was this really necessary? For crying out loud, somebody
>> > swiped some
>> > beer - does that really necessitate your making a ridiculous
>> > threat and
>> > talking about a camel's reproductive organs on a public
>> > board? Grow up.
>> >
>> > And yes this was meant to be sent publicly,
>> > Pendaran
>>
>>Are you saying then that you condone this stealing? And that
>>she should just keep quiet about it?
>>
>>Are you saying that you would not be upset if someone went
>>into your closed tent and took something that interested them?
>>Or since this is "only" beer, then stealing this is okay?
>>
>>As for the camels bit, it may or may not have been excessive
>>language, but I suspect that it is at least a period oath
>>or close to it.
>>
>>Stefan li Rous
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