[Ansteorra] Event Limits?

[Bob Dewart]

Please don't forget, Middleford is pretty close to the center of the
Kingdom.  We too are within 150 miles of a good number of groups.  And if
you expand that mileage just a little, say a 4 hour drive, my, my.

While some groups may be maxed out on what awards their populace can get,
others aren't.  Some groups even have population that rotate in and out on a
more or less regular base.  Examples of those groups are those near military
basese, like Middleford and Namron, and all those groups with colleges.
There's a bunch of these so I'm not going to even try to list them.

Groups such as yours and ours have there scheduling challenges.  Military
deployment, training exercises, Boy Scout events and Wicken Weekends just
give us opportunities to excell.  Thre are certain time of the year because
of my working as a civilian contractor on Fort Hood, I'm pretty much a write
off, like the month of August.

AS for being able to get dates on the calendar, well...have you heard of the
5Ps? Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance. : If one waits to within 4
months of when they want to do an event, yep, it might be a little tight.
Right now, we're just waiting for the calendar to progress a little further
so we can put in a request for War Chieftain 2005.

Gilli

Shoot more arrows.  You're bound to hit something.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norman White" <gn-white at tamu.edu>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Event Limits?


> Greetings from Master Jin Liu Ch'ang,
>
> I normally do not post to the list, preferring to be a lurker, but I felt
the need to speak on this topic.
> Gilli said that event limits are a bad thing because:
> >Some groups don't have landed folks.
> I come from the Shire of the Shadowlands, one of the small groups that
have trouble getting event dates.
> We have no landed or even unlanded barons in our group.
> Our group is within 150 miles of Stargate and its cantons, Ravensfort,
Bryn Gwlad, and most other groups in the Southern and Coastal Regions.
> As a group, you do not want to have an event the week before or after
another close by group much less the same date so that cuts out most
weekends.
> When you combine that with the fact that the community in which we are
based, Bryan/College Station, has an enormous university (TAMU) that holds
its own events that basically wreck traffic for many weekends, especially in
the fall, we have experienced many problems getting dates for events.
> Part of our problem with scheduling events is that we dare not try to
schedule an event against an A&M football game, graduation, or other large
college event.
> But another problem is that our surrounding groups have felt the need to
hold 3 to 4 events per year.
> When there are approximately 10 groups nearby, combined with coronations
and such, this does not leave many free weekends for us to have events.
> Therefore, I am glad to hear that something is being done.
>
> As for Gilli's reasons that the limit is a bad thing:
> >1.    Reduces opportunities to get awards given to populace.
>
> Most of the people in my group have either gotten their awards at other
group's events or they got them from a visiting baron and baroness.
> This occurred so often in our history that it resulted in Baron Don Tivar
and Baroness Aethylean (I apologize if I misspelled their names) becoming
the first persons to receive a Comet for service to a group in which they
were not a resident.
> Myself, I received my Iris and Laurel at Ravensfort events because our
group was unable to get event dates during that period.
> Therefore, his second objection:
>
> >2.    Will increase court times. Instead of being able to have the awards
> >given at several events during the year it will now be at only one for
> >Shires and Cantons.
>
> Courts have been too long for years.
> The most objectionable reason for court length in my mind is the feeling
by some people that they need to do presentations in court.
> I feel that if you feel the need to do a presentation in court, you are
doing it for the wrong reasons.
> As for the ability to receive awards several times in the year, be happy
to have an event to get them once.
> I also do not believe that holding only one event a year will hurt most
people as far as getting awards as very few deserve more than one a year.
> As for his third objection:
>
> >3.    Non calendar events are not well attended.  We know, we do several
a
> >year now.  And most groups don't do them.
>
> Our last few events have had less than maybe a dozen people attend from
outside the group because other groups were having bigger events.  In one
case, we thought we had a chance to hold a well attended event but the
Kingdom calendar changed and it resulted in Elfsea having an event opposite
ours.
>
> I have nothing to say about his fourth and fifth objections, except been
there, gone through it for years.
> >4.    Reduces by half the income for Shires and Cantons and by a third
for
> >Baronies.
> >5.    Reduces the amount of choices and varity of events to go to.
>
> As for his last statement:
> >I hate to say it, but the reason the Kingdom calendar is too full is
because
> >the Kingdom is too big.  Now there is politically incorrect thought.
>
> This may be true, but if you look at the calendars for other Kingdoms, you
will find that very few of them have groups holding 3 and 4 events a year.
>
> Gilli's last statement:
> >I will email the Crown tomorrow.  It's too late tonight to do so
> >effectively.  But item one above really bothers me.
>
> Discussion on decisions such as this are always welcome but I remember
Ulsted and Cateau when they were members of the Shire of the Shadowlands so
I know they remember what it is like to be unable to get dates.
>
> It must be nice to live where there are fewer surrounding groups and you
can get event dates.
>
> Jin Liu Ch'ang
> m.k.a. Norman White
> gn-white at tamu.edu
>
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