[Ansteorra] Re: Ansteorra Digest, Vol 3, Issue 43

inez stock seirra78415 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 27 11:24:54 PDT 2003 

I do not understand why the kingdom needs to be spilt. I am coming in late on this. could somone please tell me why they would spilt up such a good thing if it is not broken do not fixs it.  In service to the kingdom Lady Mary Bradford.

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Kingdom Splitting: Was Event Limits (Medicfem at aol.com)
2. Re: In Search of Several People (jerryn at houston.rr.com)
3. Re: Event Limits? (Galen W. Bevel)
4. Re: Ansteorran State of Mind (Ulf Gunnarsson)
5. Re: Re: Ansteorran State of Mind (Susan Wieland)
6. Re: Kingdom Splitting: Was Event Limits (Elaine Crittenden)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:48:06 EDT
From: Medicfem at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Kingdom Splitting: Was Event Limits
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
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In a message dated 8/26/03 8:58:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
j_smallw at titan.sfasu.edu writes:

> b) if the kingdom split without going through a principality stage, why 
> not, as 
> someone suggested, use something along the lines or North/South Ansteorra? 
> For 
> that matter a principality could conceivably do the same (as in the case of 
> West Virginia [a state, not a principality]

Being of one of the southern most shires in this kingdom, I must reply. 
"South Ansteorra" .... I don't like the sound of it. It is a dead horse. 
The last three groups to the south in Ansteorra are coastal shires. We are 
kind of unified. Often the only people that consistantly go to each others 
events are those from these three sister shires. I feel when it comes to the 
breaking of a kingdom, many alliances have already been forged that would be 
difficult to break. Our motto... We keep the Kings coast... not the Prince's coast. 
with love for the mamouth size kingdom of ANSTEORRA,

Lady Caley of Lancashire
Shire of Seawinds - Celebrating 20 years as a proud Ansteorran shire in 2004


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:13:36 -0500
From: jerryn at houston.rr.com
Subject: [Ansteorra] Re: In Search of Several People
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
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replied to privately

In service to the dream with a song in my heart, I am
HL Gerald of Leesville
Ravenskald of Ravensfort
A Bard of Stargate
Kingdom Ansteorra.


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:05:44 -0500
From: "Galen W. Bevel" 
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Event Limits?
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
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> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 06:34 pm, Elizabeth Crouchet wrote:
> Well, we are much bigger than a small kingdom like the Outlands with ony
30 
> groups but large kingdoms have as many groups as us. The East, for 
> example, which has something like 75 groups in 4 regions. The Middle has 
> 84 in 4 regions and that does not count the 35 in the soon to be kingdom 
> of Northshield. Yes, those are big kingdoms but they manage their
calendar 
> somehow. Perhaps we should look over some of their ideas and see if they 
> are worth stealing. ;-)
>
>
> CD
>


Years ago when I was Kingdom seneschal I checked into other Kingdom's
practices because our calendar was getting out of hand even then. If I
remember correctly, one of the more common ways that large kingdoms handled
the problem then was to lock down their calendar very early. My faulty
memory seems to remember that the Middle was one of these, but I could
easily be wrong. What I mean is that _all_ events are scheduled in the
previous year. If you want to have an event on the calendar in 2004, you
must have it approved, and all the paperwork done and turned in to the KS
in time to make the deadline so that the calendar for the entire year can
be published in the January Kingdom newsletter. That means if you want to
have a 2004 Yule revel, you would probably have to get the paperwork into
the kingdom by at least November 2003 so they have time to put together the
calendar and make the December 1st deadline for the January BlackStar. I
believe that some Kingdoms had an even earlier deadline,like June or so,to
allow lead time for the January events. Taken to extremes, it could end up
meaning that you would have to do the paperwork on your event from 1.5 to 2
years in advance. Not necessarily a proponent or opponent of this idea, it
was just one that I remembered that I thought you all might like to hear. 

Graf Galen Kirchenbauer


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Message: 4
Date: 27 Aug 2003 01:24:42 -0500
From: Ulf Gunnarsson 
Subject: [Ansteorra] Re: Ansteorran State of Mind
To: Kingdom of "Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
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On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 06:01, Susan Wieland wrote:
> I'm reminded of an incident that occured some years back when I was a baby 
> in the SCA. It was the 25 year celebration of the SCA. Ansteorra was 
> hosting it. We were getting ready to have Grand Court in the rodeo arena 
> in Burnet Texas. Master Pepin was at his best as a court fool/jester and 
> was trying to stir up spirit in the "stands". So he was doing a 
> cheerleader style "Gimmee an 'A'" yell. Then he suddenly said, "How do you 
> spell Ansteorra?" My smartass ex (who was a UT grad) pipes up, 
> "T-E-X-A-S". Well the folks sitting in front of us where from Namron and 
> they were NOT amused. LOL.


THAT was YOU!!?! Send me your ex... I wanna talk to 'em. :)

Ulf, Baron of Namron
(Dang, that was a fun event...)


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 06:07:04 -0500
From: Susan Wieland 
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Re: Ansteorran State of Mind
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
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At 01:24 AM 8/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
>On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 06:01, Susan Wieland wrote:
> > I'm reminded of an incident that occured some years back when I was a baby
> > in the SCA. It was the 25 year celebration of the SCA. Ansteorra was
> > hosting it. We were getting ready to have Grand Court in the rodeo arena
> > in Burnet Texas. Master Pepin was at his best as a court fool/jester and
> > was trying to stir up spirit in the "stands". So he was doing a
> > cheerleader style "Gimmee an 'A'" yell. Then he suddenly said, "How do 
> you
> > spell Ansteorra?" My smartass ex (who was a UT grad) pipes up,
> > "T-E-X-A-S". Well the folks sitting in front of us where from Namron and
> > they were NOT amused. LOL.
>
>
>THAT was YOU!!?! Send me your ex... I wanna talk to 'em. :)
>
>Ulf, Baron of Namron
>(Dang, that was a fun event...)

It was my ex.....and I have no idea where she is now or what she is 
doing. Heh, heh.....not sure that I really want to know either.

It was fun...Rowan, Queen BROA. All those swords in the air when she came 
in for grand court. It was almost a "you are there moment".

Damaris 



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:46:00 -0500
From: "Elaine Crittenden" 
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Kingdom Splitting: Was Event Limits
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." ,
ansteorra at ansteorra.org
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Wonder how the people felt when becoming "Essex" (East), "Wessex" (West), 
"Sussex" (South), and the like?

Or, later on, "North/South Dakota," "North/South Carolina," etc.?

Lete Bithespring (Steppes/Dallas)
J'es' wond'rin'.... ;-)

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>From: PKieferjr at aol.com
>
> ...but isn't being an Ansteorran more about a state of mind than a location?
> Somehow, I don't think we'll stop being Ansteorrans even if they dropped a
> nuke on us.
>
> Lord Johann Kiefer Hayden (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
> (Not quite a fossil, but getting there.)
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