[Ansteorra] Fighting Crown "not to win"

[Carl Chipman]

I once had to drop out of a double-elimination tournament due to having
to get back to work.  I fought the bout, and then if I won, I then
yielded the bout to my opponent.  If my opponent had won, they would
have the pleasure of knowing that they had won, and not wondering if I'd
"thrown" the bout.

Jean Paul

Carl Chipman
Nomadics, Inc.
cchipman at nomadics.com
http://www.nomadics.com


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Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Fighting Crown "not to win"


On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:59:24 -0600 gtaylor
<gtaylor at lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu> writes:
> Question:  Fighting "not to win" at crown....
>
> I understand "Duking" out....
>
> But is it kosher to be fighting in crown not to win, influencing
> the
> outcome of the tourney, and not giving your opponent your -best-
> fight?
>
> I'm not criticizing ...just interested in the mindset about this...
>
> Isobel
>

        I don't know if this has happened at Crown, but I know
personally
someone who has entered Baronial Champion or Queen's Champion Tourneys
with no intention of winning.
        This gentle's limitations, decided upon to ensure fairness to
other entrants, no 'thrown' fights, etc. were as follows: He would do
his
best while he was in the Tourney, but no later than the quarterfinal
round, he would go to the List mistress and drop out of the list. I'm
not
certain, but I think he let the List Mistress and all other entrants
know
this ahead of time.
        The result is that he gets in some good bouts against people who
are in "Tourney mode", he helps weed out some of the people who simply
aren't good enough to take the title anyway, and yet he never simply
'gives a win' to anyone by yielding to them. Also, his decision not to
win does not affect the outcome of the final three rounds in the
slightest.

        I think it can be done without dishonor or unfairness, it just
has to be done with proper forethought about the consequences of one's
decisions. And if someone doesn't try to think through the consequences
of their decisions, they probably shouldn't be fighting in Crown Tourney
anyway.


      Iain MacCrimmon


                    Cave Tyranniam Timorium Suorum

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