[Ansteorra] explanation of Bye

Lou Burgin AMBERLEA at peoplepc.com
Wed Jan 22 19:40:32 PST 2003


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From: "Elisabeth B. Zakes" <ezakes at austin.rr.com>
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Subject: [Ansteorra] explanation of Bye


> > Please pardon my ignorance but what is the Bye?
> >
> > Thora
>
> followed by
>
> > With one fighting bye, how far are you allowed to progress in the
> > tournement and how is it handled in double elim?  In tournements I am
> > familier with the term, in that someone 'drew the bye' and didn't have
to
> > 'play' to progress to the next round, what are the different ways it is
> > handled in SCA tournement formats?
> >
> > Susan the Curious
>
> Okay, I've been a List Clerk a time or two, so I'll take a stab at this
one.
>
> A Bye is a round when there is an odd number of fighters, so rather than
> just letting the odd fighter (take that however you will <g>) sit out a
> round, he draws the Bye: a Bye fighter is supplied so that the odd fighter
> will have his stamina decremented approximately the same amount as
everyone
> else in the round. This also keeps his muscles from cooling off too much.
>
> In some tournaments, if the Bye wins, the odd fighter has a loss counted
> against him, but if the Bye loses, the Bye fighter (not being formally
> entered in the tournament) does not. This is known as "the Bye counts" or
a
> "destructive Bye." He can fight in each and every round in which there is
an
> odd fighter (and we try to make it a different odd fighter each time) if
he
> wants to.
>
> In other tournaments, using a non-destructive Bye, the odd fighter
advances
> whether he wins or loses. Personally, I prefer this type as it keeps a
> fighter from being eliminated from a tournament by someone who isn't even
> entered. I think all fighters should be given the same chance to see the
> person who defeats them go on to win the tournament.
>
> There is another type of Bye which is difficult to handle. It's what I and
a
> couple other List Clerks call a "wraparound Bye." There is a way in a
> double-elimination tournament to adjust the bouts in a round where the Bye
> fighter is actually someone who *is* entered in the tournament and still
not
> have him fight more fights than he's supposed to. For anyone who's
curious,
> I can show you, but it's easiest on paper and we should probably be
> face-to-face.
>
> Feel free to throw other questions in the ring!
>
> Aethelyan Moondragon
> Bryn Gwlad
> occasional List Clerk
>
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