[Ansteorra] Award Query

[Eva Mehlhose]

Greetings from far away and thankfully finally cooler climates!

In Atenveldt we had a very similar discussion a couple of years ago which
resulted last year in the creation of one single Order.
Groups of people, or households are the intended recipients and the Crown
will specify as to exactly why they deemed these folk so valuable.
There is no intent of creating different orders for each and every
subspecies of activity.
So far, this has been very well received. The members of the group are given
permission to fly a banner with the award order insignia.
bowing respectfully
Maestra Alex the scribe, OL
Barony of SunDragon
Atenveldt

> HE Dore' Wrote
>
> > Master Darius,
> >
> > It is good to hear from you. I trust you will not take offense if I
offer
> > debate on a minor part of your thesis.
>
> Greetings Your Excellency! It is good to hear from you as well. I thank
you
> for your points of debate as after re-reading my initial post I find I did
> not represent my view as well as I had intended.
>
> Certainly my intent is not to disparage or in any way impugn those members
> of any of the Grant orders of Ansteorra. Truly if that were my desire I
> would bashing myself as much as any one as I am a member of two of these
> orders myself. I would not even think to say that any one who has served
> this kingdom in the Office of King or Queen or their counsilors have done
a
> disservice by wishing to give recognition to their populace.
>
> I do voice a concern that there need not be an award or Order for every
> single activity we have within the SCA. Certainly SCA Kingdoms have far
more
> venues of recognition than existed in period (but then in the SCA a Knight
> outranks a Lord). However Ansteorra has more awards/orders than most SCA
> kingdoms. Part of this is the nature of the game we play. People like
> receiving recognition. I am sure that this possibility is part of the
appeal
> that has brought many into the society.
>
> Part of it is that people want to be recognized with something extra
special
> that you have to go through a very particular hoop to get to. I feel it
> likely this has added impetuous to the creation of awards and orders in
this
> kingdom as an avalanche effect. I use as an example the current thread
> regarding group awards:
>
> presuming the Crown decides to create an service award for groups
>
> Soon people wonder why there isn't an award for groups doing A&S projects
> together. After much discussion the crown adds that to the long list of
> kingdom honors
>
> But Wait what about fighting units' do they get a group award to?
>
> Do we need separate fighting unit awards for the Heavy and Rapier fields?
>
> What about Siege weapon crews:
>
> What about.... what about....
>
> OK this is a hypothetical chain of events but it is also a very realistic
> possibility.
>
> Already we have 6 Grant orders as well as a General Grant of Arms, and
Court
> Barony. Also according to Article III section 3, paragraph j, of Kingdom
Law
> Landed nobility also receive a grant at the pleasure of the Crown.
Including
> the Landed nobility (a limited point to be sure) that is 9 different ways
to
> receive a Grant of Arms currently in Ansteorra.
>
> We have nearly as many AoA awards + the 14 Baronial service orders that
> carry an Award of Arms if one is not already held.
>
> Then we have several Non armigerous Honors some of which where closed by
> past crowns for various reasons.
>
> Gentles may become, and even be recognized as leaders in a field of
endeavor
> without having a new title and shiny heraldic widget from the crown. The
> more awards we have the more we have to define a smaller area of endeavor
in
> the SCA. Eventually if the awards and orders continue to be created one
> after another one day we will find ourselves creating an Order for the
> keeping of Northern European Game hens. Not much different than Merit
> Badges.
>
>
>
>
> > > (strangely there are still no Armigerous level awards for anything but
a
> > > basic AoA, A&S, and Service. No marshal or armed activities at all.)
> >
> > Not so strange when you see the new grants as working orders and not
just
> > awards.
>
> I still find it strange.We have arts and service awards at the armigerous
> level and yet still those companions of the Iris and the Star of Merit are
> expected to be leaders and members of a working order. Certainly they do
not
> have meetings of their orders but they do no less for this kingdom than
> their marshal bretheren. Why should Marshal and Armed activities be set
> apart in this fasion?
>
> In Faith
>
> Darius
>
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