Land - Re: [Ansteorra] Question 12/13

[Chass]

Aye things like the A.D.A. have to be thought through before letting a camp 
ground be rented to a group.. because once it is rented to a groupe for a 
weekend event it is no longer considered private property and falls under 
camp grounds according to the federal law. Case in example Gulf Wars site. 
Although until someone pushes it people seem to think its still private 
property even though there is tons of case law to show that it is no longer 
private when rented to a public organization. (note: no I am not being a 
A.D.A. nazi right now just trying to show someone another thing that has to 
be thought out before they open land up for camping/events/groups).

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Chass Brown
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <niklas at pbgilbert.net>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Land - Re: [Ansteorra] Question 12/13


> Not just in the SCA, but in many cases where private land has been used 
> for events and such, if folks are allowed to set up permemant camps in the 
> same location without VERY VERY clear understandings as to usage, access, 
> and such, over a period of time the fact that the land is not really 
> theirs (the user not the owner) gets lost or conveneniantlly fforgotten, 
> and the users begin to become "attached" to the land to a point that they 
> think they (the user) now "own" the land and the real land owner has no 
> say or is not important.
>
> This has happened twice in Ansteorra alone and I am sure other places.
>
> In Texas, the land owner in cases like this is 99.99999999999999999% of 
> time the winner...legions of lawyers or not.
>
> This is a really complicated matter, that if a group wants to use private 
> land for SCA events, they really need a "use agreement" done so as to 
> protect all parties rights and not get in a finger pointing contest at a 
> later date.
>
> It can be a very simple agreement, outlining who is what, who does what or 
> doe not do what and such.
>
> One sheet of paper can prevent problems in the future.
>
> Just speaking from the voice of experience on this one.
>
> HE Niklas
>