[Ansteorra] Question 11/18

[niklas at pbgilbert.net]

Ok, however, let's say that they make concerted efforts (thru various 
means and people) to impose their views and idea of the SCA (a personal 
party club) on rest of the group, despite efforts to negotiate "peace 
and cooperation".

Add to this issue the fact that there are more of them than the folks 
that travel and wish to participate in the "true" SCA, not the SCA that 
  is practiced in someones living room.

Keep in mind that the attitude of the ones being dealt with do not deal 
in logic and trying to "educate them in the SCA" results only in 
confrontation, laughter (ridicule) and no results.

Niklas





Paul DeLisle wrote:
> My answer would be this:
> 
> They get to play locally...and contribute in whatever way they wish to the
> local group (as long as it's legal)...however, they *don't* get to impose
> their personal view on others, or the group as a whole.
> It's the responsibility of the others in the group (or those that travel
> there), especially those with experience, to see that they do not do so.
> You need to make the Bigger, Brighter, Kingdom-level playing more attractive
> than the tiny, "safe" little community that might have been created locally.
> 
> Easy?...probably not. But necessary? Absolutely.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> In Service, I remain
> Alden Pharamond
> Tir Medoin, Ansteorra
> 
> 
> 
> A caveat here that may change this equation...
> What if the ones that do not travel, refuse to travel or even
> participate on a local level except in their own skewed view of the SCA.
> Niklas
> 
> 
> 
> Vicki Marsh wrote:
> 
>>Cross-pollination.
>>
>>And, if Mohammed won't come to the mountain, then the mountain must come
> 
> to
> 
>>Mohammed.
>>
>>The *real* leaders of the groups must travel and make connections with
> 
> other
> 
>>groups that are socially different from theirs in nature. They must make
>>connections with others and work to invite the outsiders to come to events
>>where the insulated populace can meet them and have a sharing of ideas and
> 
> a
> 
>>shared experience with the "foreigners". Groups tend to become xenophobic
> 
> if
> 
>>they never come in contact with other groups. It becomes an SCA groups
> 
> that
> 
>>is almost like the Branch Davidians - Us vs. Them, and my way is the only
>>ONE true way..... I've seen more groups self-destruct when they become
>>"ego-centric" because they revolve around one person's ego and it is their
>>way, or else...
>>
>>Real leaders, whether officers/nobles, or not, will understand that they
>>have to expose their groups to other schools of thought and ways of
> 
> playing
> 
>>the SCA. They also need to work steadfastly to counter the peer fear that
> 
> we
> 
>>tend to instill in our new people over time. Leaders also need to lead by
>>example by traveling and teaching, as well as bringing along members of
>>their household/shire/barony/etc., so they can all learn new things
>>together.
>>
>>Rambling from lack of sleep,
>>
>>Xene
> 
> 
> 
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