[Ansteorra] Land and Title . . . (Was Squires, Spurs and belts, OH MY!)

Dave Wise drwise at houston.rr.com
Sat Jun 24 13:09:32 PDT 2006

Hi Faelan,
I might suggest a little perspective.  Some folks have been doing this 
for two decades, or more in some cases.  Often when someone has been 
prominent for so long, life catches up with them and they need to take a 
break.  So, some folks then assume they are no longer 'doing the work'.  
Having been at this awhile, I often see some of those people continue to 
work harder than ever, just not as publicly.  A recent example was 
Mistress Tessa of Bordermarch who was quite willing to be 'volunteered' 
to take care of water bearing at the Lysts event.  Even though it was 
not an area she has spent a lot of time with, she learned what all was 
involved, coordinated with Lord Alfred and a host of other water bearers 
and did a great job.  But, unless you went looking for it, you wouldn't 
have realized all the effort that went into handling that part of an 
event.  I am not sure from your post if it is only the work part you are 
referring to, but if it should relate to conduct, all I can say is that 
peers are people too and sometimes they get tired and grumpy.  But that 
notwithstanding, I don't think that, short of some grievous conduct, 
that a few 'bad' days are much to forgive for what is often years of 
dedication to improving our group.

With regards,
p.s. Now off to King's College to see Hl Clara get elevated to take on a 
whole new level of work :-)

>That's my point. There are many in this Kingdom of knightly bearing who are
>not knights. I think this is more defining than title. Unfortunately though,
>I have also found not just Knights, but other peers as well who are not as
>deserving of those titles anymore. It's sad, but some people work their
>tails off to get something, then seem to forget why they got it and it
>looses it's value. 
>The SCA doesn't strip people of "land and title" do they? I've personally
>never heard of it, although BOD banishment would kind of seem to effectively
>do just that. What I'm wondering is, has there ever been a case when a
>Monarch decided that someone was so disgracing their Order, Coronet,
>Peerage, etc. that he actually stripped the person of that rank/title?
>I'm just bringing this up cause I saw Robin Hood again last night and
>Lochsley got stripped of "land and title". 

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