[Ansteorra] Terms Coronets when to use

[Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace]

Salut cozyns

Michael Silverhands dit qe:

>I refer to the heirs as "The Heirs", or "Their Highnesses". I don't
>remember hearing the term "The Coronet" used, except to describe a
>"Coronet List" (which is to determine the heirs of a Principality).
>Maybe that's a regional thang.

Back when Atenveldt had principalities, the Kingdom laws made references to 
rights and responsibilities of the prince and princess as belonging to the 
"Coronet." Same metonymous use that current Ansteorran Law makes of the term 
"Crown."

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>From: Michael Silverhands <silverhands at sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
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>To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Terms Coronets when to use
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:53:21 -0500
>
>
>On Oct 17, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Lori Campbell wrote:
> > I think it is somewhat confusing, but we do refer to the Royal Heirs
> > very often as "The Coronet."  ...  I've occasionally heard Landeds
> > referred to as "the coronets" but it just never seemed right to me.
> >
>
>I refer to the heirs as "The Heirs", or "Their Highnesses". I don't
>remember hearing the term "The Coronet" used, except to describe a
>"Coronet List" (which is to determine the heirs of a Principality).
>Maybe that's a regional thang. Or maybe I should just get out more. ;-)
>
>I personally dislike the term "landed"... it sounds like you're
>describing someone who's landed here from some other planet or
>something (which sometimes seems to be the case, but that's another
>discussion *grin*). I generally try to use the term "Territorial
>Barons" or "Barons in Fief".
>
>[By the way: for those who don't know, that word "fief" is pronounced
>"feef", note "fife". A "fief" is land held subject to feudal
>obligations. A "fife" is a little high-pitched flute with a shrill
>tone -- again, we might be describing certain nobles, but not all of
>them. *grin*]
>
> > The term "reign" is also rather ambiguous, but to my mind it also
> > carries the connotation of Sovereignty.  In other words, I tend not to
> > use it when referring to the tenure of anyone who is not a sovereign
> > King/Queen (i.e. a Prince or Baron).
> >
>
>Exactly. When Neassa and I were Baron/ess of Stargate, we were
>careful to refer to our time in office as "our tenure", not "our
>reign". Only one couple has a "reign", and that is the King and Queen.
>
> > "Throne" is even more ambiguous.  ...
> > Generally, I hear the word combined with some kind of limiter though,
> > as in the "kingdom thrones," or the "baronial thrones" or "Their
> > Highnesses Thrones" etc. - making it perfectly clear whose throne is
> > under discussion.  Considering the word already has widespread
> > accepted
> > use, I'm not sure we can expect to reserve it strictly for the chairs
> > used by our Sovereigns.
> >
> > Kat M. >^.,.^<
> > Wiesenfeuer
>
>Agreed.
>
>Kind regards,
>Michael Silverhands
>
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