[Ansteorra] Undergarments and stuff

[Sunny Briscoe]

On the realm of Venus website, there are images to a couple of pairs of
women's underpants.
http://realmofvenus.renaissancewoman.net/wardrobe/extdraw1.htm  Some of her
images come from the books "Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd" and "A
History of Underclothes"

Supposedly there is commentary (I have only heard about this, but haven't
seen it for myself yet) about how the only thing that should be between a
women's legs is her husband, that women shouldn't wear underpants, because
whores do, etc...  My understanding of human nature is that we don't
complain about stuff that people aren't doing (Ben Franklin's comment would
not have made sense unless at least some women were wearing underpants of
some sort).  My understanding of the female body is that we very much want
some sort of underpants - women are messy.

There is a reference to Eleonora di Toledo's underpants.  She had several
pair in her wardrobe, and at least one fur lined (blech!) pair. in the book
"Moda a Firenze 1540-1580: Lo stile de Eleonora di Toledo e la sua
influezea"

I don't believe it's unreasonable to assume that women's underpants would
follow a similar form as men's fashions either.

Elisabetta Morosini


On 9/20/06, mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 07:58:49PM -0500, Marc Carlson wrote:
> > I'd like to thank folks who've offered suggestions on where to research
> this
> > topic, but honestly that wasn't what I was writing for earlier.  I've
> been
> > researching this topic for a long time now, so when I say that there
> aren't
> > any extant examples, I mean it.  All we have are pictures and guesses.
> >
> > BTW, Michael, I suspect that the picture you are describing (folio 2v
> > "February") could be showing any number of things - particularly with
> the
> > peasant working in the field with his skirts tucked up and showing *his*
> > braes.  My take on it is that he's shed his undergarments to help get
> warm.
>
> Certainly could be the case, and I've wondered about that, but _why_
> would he want the wind whistling around his goolies while he was
> trying to use radiant heat to warm 'em? Self-defeating. Could be some
> artistic license. Sample of one: not enough to draw _any_ sort of
> general conclusion from.
>
> Best regards, from
>
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