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[Monica Riney]

A Ship Master would be basically what we now think of as a ships captain. though originally the Captain was the commander of the military contingency of a vessel and the Ship Master ran the ocean going side of things. 

for a better description http://www.history.navy.mil/trivia/triv4-5j.htm

On an interesting note a "Ships Master" in some modern civilian shipping areas is a position some where in between What we tend to think of as First Mate and the old maritime position of Boson. (for US Sailors "Chief of the Boat" or "Command Master Chief" is a better equivalent) Basically an administrative and operational assistant to the Ships Captain. 

 By tradition however the CO of a US Navy vessel is referred to as Captain irrelevant of rank. (one will also hear the CO often referred to as "The Old Man" or "Skipper" as well)

Darius
(formerly MM3(nuc) Riney)


>wrote:
>
>> A ship's captain might be introduced as "Captain
>> So-and-so",  
>> especially if he was a "ranked officer of military
>> forces". Captain  
>> of a private or merchant vessel, I'm less sure of.
>> Probably not.
>
>Not sure what the real difference would be but-have
>also seen refernce to a ships master in a context that
>lead me to think that it was the same as captain.
> 
>> A "ranked officer of military forces" would probably
>> be introduced  
>> using their rank, but in those cases it would be
>> easy to tell that  
>> you should because they'd be wearing their military
>> dress uniform. If  
>> they're in their "civies", you probably wouldn't use
>> their rank  
>> unless the introduction was being made to another
>> military person in  
>> an informal setting. But that's not the setting
>> we're discussing, so  
>> that's not terribly relevant. ;-)
>
>Most military rank as we know it was little used if at
>all in period-the Romans were very structured the rest
>of Europe much less so.
> 
>> Ministers of government (e.g. Minister of Defense)
>> don't usually go  
>> around being introduced as "Minister of Defense
>> So-and-so" today, and  
>> I suspect they wouldn't be in court, either. If they
>> had a noble  
>> title, such as "Lord So-and-so" in addition to their
>> post within the  
>> government, then that title would be used. I.e.,
>> they'd be introduced  
>> as "Lord So-and-so". Or if for some reason you
>> wanted those present  
>> to know that they were Minister of Defense (e.g. a
>> public speaking  
>> engagement), you might throw that in, e.g. "Lord
>> So-and-so, the  
>> Minister of Defense".
>
>It seems most "Ministers" as it were usually were
>known as being on the "Council" for their respective
>crown and having aposition within said council.
>
>
>> There's an interesting article here:
>>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Style_(manner_of_address)>.
>> 
>> Michael
>
>Robert
>
>
> 
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