[Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves

Cisco Cividanes engtrktwo at earthlink.net
Mon May 7 11:33:20 PDT 2007


REALLY????

This is in total contradiction to the scarves I have seen made in the
north.
I honestly didn't know that advanced announcement was commonplace.
Thank you for that correction, Lord Brendon.

Ivo Blackhawk


brendan_mcewan at dhope.net wrote:
> Modius and Llewelyn both had vigils.
>
> And about 80%-90%, they are announced.  White scarves rarely are made on the spot.
>
> Brendan
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: gail young <gwynethb63 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 7, 2007 1:05:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves
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>
> If I am correct in my thinking, this was held after the award was actually given.
>   Once again, I may be wrong and probably should have just kept my mouth shut<G>
>   gwyneth
>
> Cisco Cividanes <engtrktwo at earthlink.net> wrote:
>   I have seen white scarves given, and as the award is a grant level, I 
> believe it is usually given instantly, with no advanced notification. 
> None of the white scarves I know have ever mentioned sitting vigil, and 
> none of the awards I saw with my own eyes included a vigil.
>
> per the OP, I understand that a white scarf is equal in rank to the 
> centurion, and they do not traditionally hold vigil either. (again, the 
> recipient is usually given all of thirty seconds warning before the 
> cloak is thrown over his shoulders.)
>
> I'm sure their has been exceptions to the rule, but I am fairly 
> confident that Vigils in Anstorra are popularly considered to be acts 
> reserved for pending knights, laurels or pelicans.
>
> Lord Ivo Blackhawk
>
> Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace wrote:
>   
>> Salut cozyns,
>>
>> An interesting thread was initiated on the SCA Chivalry list in 
>> response to the first member of the Order of the Western White Scarf. 
>> Apparently that gentleman sat a vigil. From an historical perspective, 
>> anyone can choose to hold a vigil prior to any major life change, but 
>> I began wondering about former and current practices here.
>>
>> Do candidates for the White Scarf in Ansteorra ever hold vigils? If 
>> yes, is this the norm or a rare event?
>>
>> Merces.
>>
>> En Lyonel
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