[Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves

[Daralynn Brittain]

Question from someone relatively new.....what is meant by a terminal award??

Elspeth


>From: brendan_mcewan at dhope.net
>Reply-To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
><ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves
>Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 14:45:23 -0700 (PDT)
>
>As with all things not nailed down, the announcing has become a tradition 
>with consideration given to what the recipient would want.  Many scarves 
>make new outfits, invite friends, etc to this special occasion.  Also, with 
>the exeption of archery, none of the other grant level awards are terminal 
>awards.
>
>Brendan
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Cisco Cividanes <engtrktwo at earthlink.net>
>To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Monday, May 7, 2007 1:33:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves
>
>
>REALLY????
>
>This is in total contradiction to the scarves I have seen made in the
>north.
>I honestly didn't know that advanced announcement was commonplace.
>Thank you for that correction, Lord Brendon.
>
>Ivo Blackhawk
>
>
>brendan_mcewan at dhope.net wrote:
> > Modius and Llewelyn both had vigils.
> >
> > And about 80%-90%, they are announced.  White scarves rarely are made on 
>the spot.
> >
> > Brendan
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: gail young <gwynethb63 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> > Sent: Monday, May 7, 2007 1:05:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves
> >
> >
> > If I am correct in my thinking, this was held after the award was 
>actually given.
> >   Once again, I may be wrong and probably should have just kept my mouth 
>shut<G>
> >   gwyneth
> >
> > Cisco Cividanes <engtrktwo at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >   I have seen white scarves given, and as the award is a grant level, I
> > believe it is usually given instantly, with no advanced notification.
> > None of the white scarves I know have ever mentioned sitting vigil, and
> > none of the awards I saw with my own eyes included a vigil.
> >
> > per the OP, I understand that a white scarf is equal in rank to the
> > centurion, and they do not traditionally hold vigil either. (again, the
> > recipient is usually given all of thirty seconds warning before the
> > cloak is thrown over his shoulders.)
> >
> > I'm sure their has been exceptions to the rule, but I am fairly
> > confident that Vigils in Anstorra are popularly considered to be acts
> > reserved for pending knights, laurels or pelicans.
> >
> > Lord Ivo Blackhawk
> >
> > Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace wrote:
> >
> >> Salut cozyns,
> >>
> >> An interesting thread was initiated on the SCA Chivalry list in
> >> response to the first member of the Order of the Western White Scarf.
> >> Apparently that gentleman sat a vigil. From an historical perspective,
> >> anyone can choose to hold a vigil prior to any major life change, but
> >> I began wondering about former and current practices here.
> >>
> >> Do candidates for the White Scarf in Ansteorra ever hold vigils? If
> >> yes, is this the norm or a rare event?
> >>
> >> Merces.
> >>
> >> En Lyonel
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