[Ansteorra] Bad things

vujadea200 at aol.com vujadea200 at aol.com
Mon May 14 19:17:54 PDT 2007

   The only (potential) problem I see would only allowing those who have passed the "SCA approved" backgroud work with the children.  While I think this is an ideal situation, I know (from experiance) that sometimes, just finding two adults to work with children is hard enough, but now, having to find others that meet the requirements, might be more difficult.
    Would previous background checks work (i.e scouts, or work, or military)?  It seems that this would open MANY more people that could do the work (and the society wouldnt have to foot the bill).  
Adena Terricsdotter
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As a parent myself, I cannot see a single thing wrong with any of the
suggestions that you have made here, and I would support them
wholeheartedly.  Even if my child were a teen instead of a 6 year old, I
would still support these suggestions, it might embarrass the teen, but I'd
rather have a safe embarrassed teen than one who has been misused by anyone.
Besides, if it's the norm for all under 18, it shouldn't be embarrassing. :)

Elizabeta of Rundel
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From: "Ian Dun Gillan" <ian1550 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Bad things

> Now that this thread has an opportunity to stop being personal conjecture
> and is now turning in a better direction I have something to say.  Thank
> to Don Robin for the redirect, and thank you to Burke and Ivo for
> along with that.
> Children are truly precious and we need to do everything we can to protect
> them, they are not only the future of the SCA but the future of the world.
> We  here in Ansteorra are often leaders in innovations with in the SCA. We
> should start now to put into place some changes that would help protect
> children and our organization. What ever is done should be accomplished is
> such a way to not hindering all that we do in the SCA. In my, non-parental
> non-lawyer, opinion there are a few ways to be as safe as possible and
> be able to include children and youth activities.
> The first option would be to require parents to be physically present at
> and all SCA activities involving their child. This also means that
> of any age under 18 would have to be in the physical presence of their
> parent at all times. If the parents are present and involved in the same
> activity as their minor child then if something wrong does happen it would
> most likely not be the SCA who is at fault. .
> The second option would be to change the waivers signed by each adult who
> brings a child with them waiving the SCA of any and all legal
> responsibilities to the safety and well being of this child and taking on
> themselves all such responsibilities.
> The third option is to become very strict on the policy all ready in place
> that does not allow children or teens to be dropped off for any activity
> any regard involving the SCA, if there is not a legal guarding present
> a signed and notarized waiver. If a minor is left unattended at an event,
> meeting, or practice with out a parent or legal guardian then that minor
> should be remanded to the local authorities until the parent can be
> to pick them up.
> The fourth option is to require background checks of all individuals who
> work with minors (MOCs, Youth Marshals, Chirurgeons, etc.) Then to limit
> those adults who take place is children's and youth activities to people
> have passed the required background check.
> Please remember that this is only my opinion and does not reflect in any
> the official opinion of  the Crown, Kingdom or SCA. I know that these
> options seem rather harsh and that there would be some uncomfortable
> adjustments especially with teens, and parents who are used to allowing
> their child to run free...but what is needed for a child's safety is some
> absolutism in the creation and implementation of policies. What we are
> looking for here is the safety of the children and the continuation of the
> SCA brought forth in the best way possible.
> Sincerely,
> Ian Dun Gillan
> Baron of Northkeep
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