[Ansteorra] Bad things

Lisa ladyemp at sbcglobal.net
Tue May 15 00:53:01 PDT 2007


Ok, I've worked as a counselor leading a group of troubled children.  If one
needed to go to the bathroom during the group period, (an emergency potty
type thing), they went with a buddy, and there were people notified to watch
and make sure that they actually went to the bathroom and didn't wander off.
As for temper tantrums, we couldn't just call the parents, so we had to deal
with it.  My personal preference for dealing with a refusal to participate
or a temper tantrum was to put the child at issue in an area away from the
rest of the group, yet still well within sight and "allow" them to watch the
rest of the group have fun while they could not participate.  It usually
didn't take many sessions of 'time out" for the children to decide that it
was better and more fun to participate than watch and be bored.  Keep in
mind though this was a case of one counselor and 8 kids.  Any more than 8
children and I had to have a second counselor with me as a backup.

Elizabeta

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Wyvill" <wyvillmike at hotmail.com>
To: <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Bad things


>
> >From: Laetitia <laetitia at doverkeep.com>
> >Reply-To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
> ><ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> >To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Bad things
> >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:28:03 -0700
> >
> >At 08:20 PM 5/14/2007, Mike Wyvill wrote:
> > >Restrooms can be as a group. Herd the children there, herd them back.
> >
> >How would that work?
> >
> >Little Susie needs to go *right now*!!
> >
> >Do you interrupt the entire group at their activity and take all the
> >kids? Or make Susie wait until the group's break time?
> >
> >Conversely - how does the "two deep" rule work on escorting a minor
> >child to the bathroom alone?
>
> You NEVER escort a child by themselves. Sorry but this is a lesson learned
> the hard way by the BSA. Boy Scouts calls it the buddy system but you
don't
> take a child anywhere alone. You start the your activities with that
march.
> If not you find Susie's mom or dad and THEY take care of it. MOC
activities
> were never meant to be a babysitting service.
>
>
> >
> > >Disruptive children? If you use the form required by the Kingdom, the
> > >parents will have stated where they would be. I am sure a passing adult
> > >would be happy to oblige in summoning them.
> >
> >Little Susie is throwing a screaming fit (possibly because she didn't
> >get to go to the bathroom *smile*)
> >Do we leave little Susie screaming in the middle of the room,
> >disrupting all the other children's activities until someone passing
> >by can be sent for Susie's parents
>
> Its either that or you have enough help to spare an adult. You want one to
> go and then have little Susie accuse you of doing something that either
> makes it impossible for you to play any more or that can get you arrested?
> Remember two deep protects not only the child but the adult.
>
>
> Lord Engenulf de Vienville
>
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