[Ansteorra] New Performance event

Patrick R tex_yankee2004 at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 14 20:29:26 PST 2008

I guess I just hate admitting I fall into that older group as well. All of you have made a very valid point we are old and many have kids to account for. Ummmm maybe a good idea for a TV show "Married with children". Just out of curiosity can someone tell me what the (at the time events ran longer) older people did then when they would not break up until early afternoon? Just curious is all. 

Richard Threlkeld <rjt at softwareinnovation.com> wrote:
  One big reason why we have begun to shift away from Sunday activities is the
amount of travel people need to endure to get back home. Then they unpack
and get ready for the next day. This has become more important as we move
into an older group with school age children. Getting home at midnight and
getting children up and to school and you to work the next morning is

In service

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You bring up an interesting point about day tripping. Now I realize that
sometimes it is not avoidable as people have other obligations but for some
events it may be possible to extend the time we have. I am relatively new to
the SCA (over two years) and when I first went to a camping event, I was
surprised to see everyone packing up as soon as they got up in the morning.
I am not sure if it has been tried before but could we consider ways to have
some of the activities continue on Sundays. Consider having the final round
of a competition on a Sunday thus allowing for more varied activities during
the day. I realize this cause some concerns with the drinking that would
happen on Saturday night but it could be worth considering. I would not
recommend placing some events on Sat and some on Sunday in their entirety
since that could cause some people to just show up for one of the two days,
as well as the rivalry as to which event is what day . Well it is something
I wish would
be considered for one of the events. 


Robert Fitzmorgan wrote: My choice would be, No to
fighting and YES to camping. People are
day-tripping a lot more today than we did when I started in the SCA and I
believe that has contributed to there being lass bardic at our events.
I also would prefer that we not have a court at the event. It would
just use time that could better be spent on bardic.


On Jan 14, 2008 11:27 AM, Judie Willey 

> I would love to step in and say I would Steward the event...however I do
> have some reservations which would need be answered first.
> 1) from all the previous posts I read, this is supposed to be bards,
> musicians, food and artisans...but now all of a sudden, someone comes up
> with torchlight fighting in the evening.
> I would prefer the original idea of no fighting...and focus on the
> a&s/fair
> type gathering.
> 2) what kind of time frame are we looking at to put this together and get
> on
> calender?
> 3) would we want overnight camping?
> 4) what type of budget are we looking at?
> If someone can provide me with reasonable answers and a reasonable time
> frame ( ie at least 6 months) then I would be happy to Steward the event
> Hadassah
> On Jan 14, 2008 11:18 AM, Jay Rudin wrote:
> > Ihon wrote:
> > > It as been a long time dream of Master Ulf and a somewhat newer dream
> of
> > > mine to have an event centering on performance.
> >
> > Pleaase -- to have a *new* event centering on performance. I've been to
> > bardic colloquia, Autumn Fires, Kingdom Eisteddfod on its own, etc. I
> > think t's important to remember that this isn't something that's never
> > been
> > done before; it's something that hasn't been done in a long time.
> >
> > What's the difference? Well, the main thing is that WE KNOW WE CAN DO
> IT.
> >
> > > The usual argument against
> > > such an event is that its draw might be limited without something to
> > > engage
> > > the populace militant who, it is assumed, would be elsewhere given the
> > > opportunity -- an argument that carries some weight, I believe, given
> > the
> > > regional fighter practice set against Stargate's Yule, and the absence
> > of
> > > some who I anticipated being present.
> >
> > Draw *is* limited. That's a feature, not a bug. We should get a
> cheaper
> > camp and plan for a smaller crowd. The specific goal for the event is
> to
> > have a day when we're all doing the same sort of thing, rather than
> split
> > into various activity groups.
> >
> > > However, I believe it can be achieved and that Eisteddfod could be
> it's
> > > center piece, with other of HL Alden's fine suggestions included as
> > well.
> >
> > I love the idea for the event, but I suspect that Eisteddfod *cannot* be
> > its centerpiece. Eisteddfod takes several hours and is where virtually
> > all
> > bards are during that time. In fact, if we get more bards there,
> > Eisteddfod takes even longer. Eisteddfod could easily supplant the Fair
> > for several hours; it cannot serve as a mere centerpiece in the middle
> of
> > an active fair -- not if we've achieved our goal of bringing people
> > together who are focused on bardcraft.
> >
> > If I go to the fair, I'd like the opportunity to, well, go look at the
> > fair. I actively don't want to sit in one place for hours.
> >
> > Also, Eisteddfod is generally set at the end of the year, during lousy
> > weather.
> >
> > > Basically, the vision (as I see it) is a fete with merchants and food
> > > and/or
> > > drink taverns -- ala a Gather for you Pern fans.
> >
> > Could we please call it a fair instead of deliberately focusing on a
> > science fiction setting? Everybody here knows what a fair is.
> >
> > > What say you, bards? Can we make it happen?
> >
> > Of course. We can make *any* idea happen. The question is this: *will*
> > we
> > make it happen?
> >
> > Step one is for somebody to decide to be the event steward. I have some
> > ideas for other steps, but there are no other steps until we get to step
> > one.
> >
> > We will make this event happen if somebody says, "I will be the event
> > steward." We will talk about it forever to no effect if nobody says, "I
> > will be the event steward."
> >
> > Unfortunately, I can't right now, or I'd jump in. Anybody else?
> >
> > Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
> >
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