[Ansteorra] SCA on Gov't "watch list:" let's just skewer this vampire right here...

John Atkinson johnmatkinson at gmail.com
Thu Jul 17 23:23:30 PDT 2008


Amusingly, most of the SCAdians I know well have security clearances.
Comes of being introduced to the Society in a community near a
military installation.

All comissioned officers have at least a Secret clearance and a lot of
enlisted do if in sensitive positions.  At least one member of our
local group has a TS/SCI, possibly more of us.

Ioannes Dalassenos
mka John M. Atkinson
SSG, USA
(who is posting from a government internet connection, and has a
Secret computer on the desk I'm sitting at now)

On 7/18/08, Lucian Alexander <stardancer1944 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The SCA is really big in Europe and many of our troops are active
> participants.
>
> Stardancer
>
> No harming of any animal, vegetable or mineral occurred in the sending
>
> of this message, however several electrons were terribly inconvenienced!
>
> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Peter Schorn <peterschorn at pdq.net> wrote:
> From: Peter Schorn <peterschorn at pdq.net>
> Subject: [Ansteorra] SCA on Gov't "watch list:" let's just skewer this
> vampire right here...
> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:36 PM
>
> Someone who shall remain nameless said:
>
> "As far as the terrorist "thing," I once heard that every member
> of the SCA
> has a file at the FBI because the SCA is listed as a "subversive
> organization," for no other reason than that our organization structure is
> modeled on a mundane political structure (we've set up kingdoms and
> principalities in the United States)."
>
> My lord or lady, permit me to comment, as I have held Secret clearances
> three times over a quarter-century: once when I worked on the Shuttle during
> the Cold War, once when I worked on contract at Hurlburt Field, Florida
> (Google it, I's interesting) in 2004, and one other time.
>
> Membership in The Society for Creative Anachronism is no impediment to
> gaining a Secret clearance.
>
> I'll bet you a year's salary that's true.  I'm not worried
> about losing,
> because I've made that bet three times already.  And each time I've
> made it,
> I've won.
>
> I applied three times.  Three times I was approved.  Each time I listed
> "The
> Society for Creative Anachronism, Milpitas, CA" on the application forms
> where it says "list all organizations in which you have ever held
> membership."  Nobody even asked for the address.  Not once.
>
> You went on to say:
>
> "Some people just get really uncomfortable when they see something
> unusual,
> and the kneejerk response is to conclude that something unusual
> automatically means something wrong."
>
> Yes.  Yes they do.
>
> --Cadfan, holding the stake while Dr. van Helsing swings the mallet...
>
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