[Ansteorra] Group status changes

[Cisco Cividanes]

I had heard a different version that stemmed from a clerical error.
Evidently a local police chief had asked the FBI about the SCA upon
learning of an upcoming demo, and the FBI did not look up the correct
group before sending their summary.

Maybe that's an urban legend too, who knows.

Ivo

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com> wrote:
> At 08:39 AM 7/17/2008, you wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>> As far as the terrorist "thing," I once heard that every member of the SCA
>> has a file at the FBI because the SCA is listed as a "subversive
>> organization," for no other reason than that our organization structure is
>> modeled on a mundane political structure (we've set up kingdoms and
>> principalities in the United States).  I've never been able to confirm
>> that
>> claim, so I wouldn't say for sure whether it's true or not.  Some people
>> just get really uncomfortable when they see something unusual, and the
>> kneejerk response is to conclude that something unusual automatically
>> means
>> something wrong.
>
> This came up in "Tournaments Illuminated" some years ago. The fellow who
> wrote the article started out as a newspaper reporter who'd been assigned to
> do a story about Pennsic and ended up joining the SCA.  He filed a Freedom
> of Information Act request to see what files the FBI actually had on the
> SCA.
>
> The result was (quoting from his comments on the Rialto):
>
> "As I wrote in TI a few years ago, after filing a Freedom of Information
> request with the FBI, there were, at the time, TWO of them - both requests
> for any information on the SCA from military folks to the FBI, and two
> replies:
>
> #1 stated that the SCA was an educational not-for-profit group with an
> interest in history,
>
> #2 said "we have no derogatory information about the SCA on file."
>
>
> So... it's a nice urban legend, but there's nothing factual behind it
> (unless you're the rabid conspiracy theorist-type who just *knows* that the
> government is always lying to and spying on you. <G>)
>
>        -Tivar Moondragon
>
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