[Ansteorra] Answers to Questions-Waterbearer proposal

Aingeal clan_mac at charter.net
Thu Jun 19 14:11:54 PDT 2008

	I can tell you that from my mundane job that the reporting of
illnesses is now done electronically to the Health Department, so
information travels quicker to an investigator.  Some diseases are
considered an outbreak with only one or two cases. There are two reports
that can be done, one is Infectious Disease Report (required by an treating
facility for certain illnesses) and the other is Electronic Foodborne
Outbreak Reporting System which is sent to the CDC and states "A foodborne
outbreak is defined as the occurrence of two or more cases of a similar
illness resulting from the ingestion of a common food in the United States.
	We can really thank the internet age for bringing the enforcement
side more into the public eye, plus computers are now tracking lab results
and the codes that are used identify your condition so insurance will pay.
	I have answered a number of email since this has come out. I will
try to answer questions as I can.  I do see both sides of this issue.
Although whatever happens I will always waterbear at events. 
In Service to Ansteorra,
HL Aingeal Mac an Ghabhann

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[mailto:ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Sir Lyonel
Oliver Grace
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:01 AM
To: Alasdair MacEogan; ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Cc: treasurer at sca.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Answers to Questions-Waterbearer proposal

Salyut cozyns,
Okay, I see by Aingeal's follow-up that quite a few of us somehow
misunderstood the goal of this proposed change. If the concern is not
litigation but public health department scrutiny, why does anyone believe
this will ever happen? 
Has any SCA function ever been subjected to a public health inspection?
En Lyonel 
Impedimentum via est (The obstacle is the path)

> From: sirlyonel at hotmail.com> To: alasdair at bmhanson.net;
ansteorra at ansteorra.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:47:47 +0000> CC:
treasurer at sca.org> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Answers to Questions-Waterbearer
proposal> > Salut cozyns,> > Mazelle Attiya, SCA treasurer, dit qe:> > > >
Allow me to address two specific questions that numerous people have> >
asked in regards to the proposal dealing with water bearing activities.> > >
> 1. Does it mean that we can't use SCA Funds to purchase water,> >
Gatorade, food, etc for the fighters?> > > > The answer is yes, groups,
including kingdoms and the major wars can> > still use SCA Funds to purchase
supplies and food products for the> > populaces' use. Donations can still be
taken for this but instead of it> > going to the Waterbearer's Fund; it will
have to be place into a> > different Fund. I will be discussing this with
all the kingdom> > exchequers. The group funds currently set aside for
waterbearing would> > still belong to the group to purchase water, etc. It
just is not labeled> > as belonging the guild/office anymore.> > > Then
what's the point of the change? If we're really concerned that someone will
get sick from bad water or bad oranges handed out by our waterbearers, what
makes you think the scenario described here protects the SCA? Any decent
litigator will point out that, by funding the supplies, the group tacitly
approved the waterbearing activity. The very existence of this email from
the treasurer clearly demonstrates that the corporation is attempting to
insulate itself from an activity that it, too, approves. So, removing the
official status of the waterbearers and relabeling their moneys accomplishes
nothing.> > Your damned if you do and damned if you don't. Perhaps you
should consider just adding some verbiage to the waivers instead of
undermining an activity that has functioned well for years.> > Mes dos sos.>
> Meser Lyonel Oliver Grace> _________________________________ >
Impedimentum via est (The obstacle is the path)> > > > >
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