[Ansteorra] Answers to Questions-Waterbearer proposal

[Aingeal]

I wish we knew. If I had the lab available and the research dollars, there
are a few of us in Ansteorra who would love to do a study. We may never know
if they have been on site unless someone can remember.  Each county has
their own group. I do know that few years back Canton did come on site and
they require a permit for certain things. 


In Service to Ansteorra,
HL Aingeal Mac an Ghabhann

-----Original Message-----
From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Sir Lyonel
Oliver Grace
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:03 PM
To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Answers to Questions-Waterbearer proposal

Salut cozyns,
 
Right. 
 
So, in forty years of fighters drinking from squirt bottles, munching on
orange slices, how many foodborne outbreaks have we seen? How many events
have incurred inspections?
 
En Lyonel 
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> From: clan_mac at charter.net> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> Date: Thu,
19 Jun 2008 16:11:54 -0500> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Answers to
Questions-Waterbearer proposal> > > I can tell you that from my mundane job
that the reporting of> illnesses is now done electronically to the Health
Department, so> information travels quicker to an investigator. Some
diseases are> considered an outbreak with only one or two cases. There are
two reports> that can be done, one is Infectious Disease Report (required by
an treating> facility for certain illnesses) and the other is Electronic
Foodborne> Outbreak Reporting System which is sent to the CDC and states "A
foodborne> outbreak is defined as the occurrence of two or more cases of a
similar> illness resulting from the ingestion of a common food in the United
States.> We can really thank the internet age for bringing the enforcement>
side more into the public eye, plus computers are now tracking lab results>
and the codes that are use
 d identify your condition so insurance will pay.> I have answered a number
of email since this has come out. I will> try to answer questions as I can.
I do see both sides of this issue.> Although whatever happens I will always
waterbear at events. > > In Service to Ansteorra,> HL Aingeal Mac an
Ghabhann> > > -----Original Message-----> From:
ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org>
[mailto:ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Sir Lyonel>
Oliver Grace> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:01 AM> To: Alasdair MacEogan;
ansteorra at ansteorra.org> Cc: treasurer at sca.org> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra]
Answers to Questions-Waterbearer proposal> > Salyut cozyns,> > Okay, I see
by Aingeal's follow-up that quite a few of us somehow> misunderstood the
goal of this proposed change. If the concern is not> litigation but public
health department scrutiny, why does anyone believe> this will ever happen?
> > Has any SCA function ever been subjected to a public health inspection?>
> En Lyon
 el > _________________________________ > Impedimentum via est (The obstacle
is the path)> > > > > From: sirlyonel at hotmail.com> To:
alasdair at bmhanson.net;> ansteorra at ansteorra.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008
12:47:47 +0000> CC:> treasurer at sca.org> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Answers to
Questions-Waterbearer> proposal> > Salut cozyns,> > Mazelle Attiya, SCA
treasurer, dit qe:> > > >> Allow me to address two specific questions that
numerous people have> >> asked in regards to the proposal dealing with water
bearing activities.> > >> > 1. Does it mean that we can't use SCA Funds to
purchase water,> >> Gatorade, food, etc for the fighters?> > > > The answer
is yes, groups,> including kingdoms and the major wars can> > still use SCA
Funds to purchase> supplies and food products for the> > populaces' use.
Donations can still be> taken for this but instead of it> > going to the
Waterbearer's Fund; it will> have to be place into a> > different Fund. I
will be discussing this with> all the k
 ingdom> > exchequers. The group funds currently set aside for> waterbearing
would> > still belong to the group to purchase water, etc. It> just is not
labeled> > as belonging the guild/office anymore.> > > Then> what's the
point of the change? If we're really concerned that someone will> get sick
from bad water or bad oranges handed out by our waterbearers, what> makes
you think the scenario described here protects the SCA? Any decent>
litigator will point out that, by funding the supplies, the group tacitly>
approved the waterbearing activity. The very existence of this email from>
the treasurer clearly demonstrates that the corporation is attempting to>
insulate itself from an activity that it, too, approves. So, removing the>
official status of the waterbearers and relabeling their moneys
accomplishes> nothing.> > Your damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Perhaps you> should consider just adding some verbiage to the waivers
instead of> undermining an activity that ha
 s functioned well for years.> > Mes dos sos.>> > Meser Lyonel Oliver Grace>
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