[Ansteorra] Fwd: Grouply Warning? -- OT

Paul E. Kiefer, Jr. rapierman at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 9 08:19:23 PST 2008

Has someone reported this thing to Yahoo?  I'm pretty sure that they would take whatever measures were necessary to put a stop to this.

Lord Johann Kiefer Haydon (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
Plain ol' herald (and tax man)
(...and, yes, I got that invite, but I never responded to it...which, apparently, was the right decision.)

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Andrews W5EGO <mikea at mikea.ath.cx>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 8:41:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Fwd: Grouply Warning? -- OT

On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 05:45:57PM -0000, Carolyn Young wrote:
> I've gotten several of these invites lately from other lists I'm on 
> as well as Ansteorra lists.  I haven't been able to find anything 
> about whether the warning is true or not.  Does anyone else know 
> anything about Grouply?
> HL Caitlin nan Cnoc Airgead
> Shire of Gate's Edge

In the mundane world that provides the money for me to play this game,
I do E-mail security to earn that money. Grouply does not have a very
good reputation in my eyes or those of my colleagues elswewhere in the
community of folks who do my job. As I understand it, once you give it
your ID and password (what a security hole!), it will send these
invitations out to everyone in your addressbook. There are more and 
more "services" that will do this. 

Many lists (e.g., various Freecycle lists in Oklahoma and several of
the electronics-oriented lists to which I subscribe) will drop any
subscriber whose ID sends a Grouply invitation to that list.

Consider the context: someone (or some piece of software, more likely)
inviting everyone in your addressbook -- including the Ansteorra list
in this instance, and other lists in other instances -- to join some
ill-defined and badly-behaved thing called "Grouply".

That's inappropriate. I don't blame the person or persons, since I 
strongly suspect that they were unaware of this behavior, but I very 
much want the folks on this list to understand how I think it works, 
so that they can avoid being blamed for such behavior on other lists. 

Mike Andrews        /  Michael Fenwick    Barony of Namron, Ansteorra
mikea at mikea.ath.cx  /  Amateur Extra radio operator W5EGO
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