[Ansteorra] Veiling

Carolyn Young caitlin37 at comcast.net
Mon Mar 9 21:26:13 PDT 2009


Pre Vatican II an unveiled woman would not even be allowed inside the 
church.  But, pre Vatican II no self-respecting Catholic woman would even 
think about entering a church unveiled.

Been there, done that.

Cheers,
HL Caitlin, Carolyn, Lyn, Mom, Grandma
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maria Buchanan" <scarlettmb at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Veiling


> You MUST be talking about an Orthodox Catholic church.  I have never heard 
> of a RC church in America denying communion to a woman who didn't have her 
> hair covered.
> I probably should have mentioned that earlier.  I was raised RC not 
> Orthodox.  They are different churches.  Also Greek Orthodox, Russian 
> Orthodox and Ukranian Orthodox are all different churches - three 
> different versions of the Orthodox church.
> I've never been to Italy so I don't know about the churches there.  I'd 
> have to take your word for it Coblaith.  I can definitely see it happening 
> though.  The RC church in Italy is more traditional than it is here in the 
> US.  So that wouldn't surprise me.  I do remember when I went to the 
> Ukranian Orthodox church for a little while, I was not required to wear a 
> head covering.
> It's an interesting conversation.  Please let me know which church you 
> went to.  I'd be very interested to know.  I haven't actually been to a RC 
> church except for funerals in over 10 years.
> Maria
>
>
> --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Chelsea Durham <baby_sis_83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Chelsea Durham <baby_sis_83 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Veiling
>> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 7:24 AM
>> I was told by people that I met that it wasn't exactly
>> REQUIRED because there were women there that obviously knew
>> what they were doing who didn't have their hair covered.
>> However, along with liking the idea, and wanting to blend in
>> at my next mass, I read that women can be completely denied
>> communion.
>>
>> -Lady Grainne Kathleen NicPadraig MacDaniel
>>
>> Son, I never knew there was part of me missing until you
>> were born.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > All women entering certain Catholic churches are
>> required to cover
>> > their hair (as in, someone will turn you back at the
>> door if your head
>> > is bare), and the practice is strongly encouraged in
>> many others.
>> > Female tourists in Italy are often warned by their
>> guides to carry a
>> > scarf of some sort with them when they go to look at
>> art and monuments,
>> > to ensure they get a chance to see the inside of all
>> the cathedrals,
>> > basilicas, etc. they want to see.
>> >
>> > It might be that the church you visited is one of
>> those that doesn't
>> > actually bar the entrance of bare-headed women but
>> does quietly but
>> > firmly suggest to anyone who comes back more than once
>> or twice that it
>> > would be more appropriate if they put on a shawl or
>> something.
>> >
>> >
>> > Coblaith Muimnech
>> > <mailto:Coblaith at sbcglobal.net>
>> >
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