[Ansteorra] History Question

[Robert Fitzmorgan]

Thank you.
   I have updated the page and the comments on the photo to reflect this.  I
don't have any pictures from their first reign, so I'll be using this photo
for both of their reigns unless someone can provide a picture from the 1st
reign.

Robert

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Jay Rudin <rudin at ev1.net> wrote:

> The photo is of Seamus and Karlanna in their second reign, at the War with
> the Outlands (technically the Interkingdom Phune, in the Shire of Scorpion's
> Hollow), on October 11, 1987.  That's the throne of the Queen of the
> Outlands next to Karlonna, so it's Tara's throne.  King Artan's was on the
> other side of it, outside the picture.  Behind them, the lady in the coronet
> is Mistress Adelicia Tagliaferro (then the Honorable Lady Adelicia Gilwell,
> Star Principal Herald).  The court is of especial historical import.  That's
> the court in which the Crowns of Ansteorra and the Outlands established the
> White Scarf Treaty, and the Order of the White Scarf of the Outlands was
> founded.
>
> I don't know why they are wearing their county coronets (which those
> certainly are), but other photos of the same court confirm that they were
> doing so.  (Yes, OF COURSE I have photos of that court.  They were on
> display a couple weeks ago at the Thirtieth Anniversary White Scarf event.)
>
> The photo is mislabeled, by the way.  While Seamus and Karlanna were the
> thirteenth Crown of Ansteorra, it's not that reign.  It's their second
> reign, the seventeenth reign of the kingdom.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Fitzmorgan" <
> fitzmorgan at gmail.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:01 AM
> Subject: [Ansteorra] History Question
>
>
>  Hello
>>  I have added a page for Seamus and Karlanna to the history wiki.  If
>> features a Photograph of them by Caius Fabius that I found in the files
>> along with a release to use on the web page. (Thanks Caius)  The photo
>> shows
>> them sitting on the Ansteorran Thrones, but I do not recognize the Crowns
>> that they are wearing.  The empty throne next to Karlanna has a brass
>> plate
>> that MAY have a stag on in.  It's had to make out.  That might indicate
>> that
>> the Crown of the Outlands was present at the event.
>>  Can anyone tell me what Crowns they are wearing, who's throne they are
>> sitting next to, and  which reign this is from?  The site is:
>>
>> http://historian.ansteorra.org/wiki/index.php?title=13th_Crown
>>
>> Here is a close
>> up<http://historian.ansteorra.org/wiki/images/a/ad/S%26K_Close_3.jpg>of
>> the Crowns.  Note: the file is 3.72 M
>>
>> Robert Fitzmorgan
>> Kingdom Historian
>>
>
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