[Ansteorra] knights' chains

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From: "Brian O'hUilliam" <brianoftheloch at gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:47:08 
To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.<ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] knights' chains


In answer to your first question: No.  As mentioned, I have seen ladies
purchase chains for their Lords who are Knights.  This, typically, is only
from a person who is close to the Knight, as far as I am aware.

Your second question is not as simple & often depends on the person.
  Can a chain be bought or sold?  Absolutely.  That's how people Knights get
their chains.  However, I would be quite surprised if a Knight sold THEIR
chain (the one with which they swore fealty), but making a chain to be sold
to Knights is common.
   Given as largesse?  I have never seen someone give a Knight a chain as
largesse.  I have seen Knights give their chains to Knights who are being
elevated during the Knighting ceremony, but I would not say that is
largesse.  This can also relate to your first question as a Knight is not in
fealty to his/her fellow Knights.
One incredible thing I have seen is Knights giving links of their chains to
unbelted (non-Chivalry) fighters that greatly impress them.  I have seen
Laurels do this with Laurel leaves and Pelicans do likewise with a drop of
blood pin/pendant.

>From what I have seen, the chain of fealty is very special to the individual
and it is up to them to decide whether or not to wear a different outward
symbol of their station and how they go about obtaining it.  Basically, if
you are thinking about getting a chain as a gift for a Knight, talk with
that Knight or those very close to them (S.O., squires, etc) before doing so
as I would not be surprised if the Knight did not want to have a differnt
chain that than with which they have sworn fealty & have always sworn
fealty.


Hope this helps,
Brian O'hUilliam


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Coblaith Muimnech
<Coblaith at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I know a knight's chain is a symbol of fealty.  Does that mean it's only
> ever bestowed by one to whom fealty is owed?  Or can they be bought, sold,
> given as largesse, etc.?
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