[Ansteorra] Fee Increase and other Business...

[ld.blackmoon]

greetings

one thing to be careful of though,  is again " perception " .
many borderline members  ( those with low incomes or higher expenses ) who 
can barely afford a membership , and then are only able to afford a few 
events each year ( forget completely going to any war ) ( and the number of 
events is already shrinking ) may see the $15.00 site fee, and not notice 
the $ 5.00 discount for showing proof of membership.
and will just not plan on going to that event because it puts it outside 
their budget .
when you already have to plan your event budget as , gas to and from, 1 site 
fee, 1  can of soup, 1 loaf of bread, and 1 package of hotdogs, and a jug of 
home made tea, or water  , ( because the $8.00 for feast in adition , to 
everything else , is just more than you can afford.)
i used to play over all of northern region, as well as central and southern 
region , even made pensic a couple times, but as expenses have gone up, and 
income has not, i no longer get to go to events in many places, so far , i 
have not even been able to attend an event by our newst northern barony, 
even though i know there are some very nice people there .

Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
Arthur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair" <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us>
To: "Jay Rudin" <rudin at ev1.net>; "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
<ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Fee Increase and other Business...


> On 2/18/2010 12:40 PM, Jay Rudin wrote:
>> Ysabeau wrote:
>>
>>
>>> We could have two fee structures, one for non-members and one for 
>>> members.
>>> If you are a member, you get a $5 discount. I've seen that work 
>>> successfully
>>> with other groups (why didn't I think of that before?!?!?). One of the
>>> benefits of membership is discounted event fees. It is a perception 
>>> thing.
>>> The money going in the bank is the same either way, it is just how you
>>> present it.
>>>
>> We can certainly do this, but it's more than a perception thing.  The 
>> money goes into two different banks.  The NMS belongs to the Corporation, 
>> and is sent to California.  The site fee goes to the sponsoring 
>> branch(es), and stays in Texas and Oklahoma.
>>
>> Your proposal is quite legal, but is functionally equivalent to saying 
>> the local branches will pay the NMS for everybody.  Any local branch 
>> that's making a lot of money every year might legitimately consider this. 
>> But those breaking even or losing money probably shouldn't.
>>
>> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>>
>>
> What she's talking about is really only a semantic difference, but one
> that is much more appealing to new comers.
>
> For example, lets say right now you have a site fee of $10 and a $5 NMS
> charge.  A member gives the gate worker $10.  A non-member gives the
> gate worker $15 and later the group sends off $5 of that to corporate
> (actually it goes to Kingdom and they send it on to corporate).
>
> What Ysabeau is suggesting is that for the same event we would post a
> site fee of $15 and a $5 member discount.  A member still gives the gate
> worker $10.  A non-member still gives the non-member still gives the
> gate worker $15 and later the group sends off $5 of that to corporate.
>
> The only difference is that instead of a non-member feeling like they're
> being penalized with a surcharge, they see that there is a bonus to
> becoming a member.
>
> Donnchadh
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