[Ansteorra] Carrollton Parks - Combat Archery and Siege Weapon Training

Sun Jul 18 07:22:17 PDT 2010

First, he suggested you reply in private. You do not have to do so, but it
would be a courtesy.

Second, you certainly have a right to give you opinions, but use of any
given list is up to the owners/moderators of that list.

Third, you did not answer any of the questions he asked. You are not
engaging in a discussion, but a rant.

Fourth, he never said he had consulted all the local sources, but he got the
most likely for activity in Steppes.

If you want to discuss something of interest to this group, this list may be
the right place. If you want to rant, it may not be.

In service,
Caelin on Andrede

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Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 08:54 AM
To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Carrollton Parks - Combat Archery and Siege Weapon
Training

This is a "Freedom of Speech" issue. It is a Constitution right of this
country for it's citizen. You can agree, disagree, or just use the "Delete"
key and move on, which I so stated in the 1st paragraph, last line.

The issue apologizing for someone else is just a smoke screen at best.

Personal note -As far as you being aware on all the local sources, you are
not even close to all the sources.

Michael Kettering

On 7/17/2010 9:10 PM, Alasdair MacEogan wrote:
> I apologize for this public response, but I feel there may be a
misunderstanding on some issues that may need to be publicly laid to rest as
this was raised in this forum.  I do request any responses to me on this be
in private and not posted to the list.  I will note ahead of time I am not
the Seneschal nor an officer of the Steppes. I am just relaying information
as I have seen on the local sources.
>
> Mike<meggiddo at netzero.net>  wrote:
>    
>>   I have not heard of any notification of change
>>   in the locations to the new park.
>>      
> A change in the location for Steppes chivalric practice on Sunday's has
been published on the Steppes email list, published in the Steppes
newsletter, posted on the Steppes website and discussed in the Steppes
business and populace meetings.  The original email link towards bottom) was
sent out prior to the move and did originally reference Mary Heads, but a
recent post specifies the new location.
>
> Further I am curious as to what you mean by "SCA past Group" and "SCA
current Group"?  We are speaking of the Barony of the Steppes in both
instances, right?
>
>    
>>   I contacted the City of Carrollton on July 7, 2010, to explore the
>>   requirements to transfer the permission for combat archery from Mary
>>   Heads Carter park to Oak Creek park. In knowing what the criteria was
>>   for getting permission originally (November 2001) to conduct combat
>>   archery from the City for Mary Heads Carter park.
>>
>>   I felt that I was best individual to explore with the City this
>>   transfer. Afterall, I do have all the correspondence that went on with
>>   the City of Carrollton for the original permission to include combat
>>   archery in Mary Heads Carter park as part of the regular fighter
>>   practice.
>>      
> I will note that the Seneschal is the legal representative for a group and
I would put forth that the _Senechal_ would likely be the best individual to
represent the group to the City and gain any permissions that might be
necessary.  no other officer, let alone non-officer, should do more than
gather information and possibly advise the seneschal in what should be done.
Just my thought on the matter.
>
>    
>>   #2 - The SCA current Group is not a recognized group at Oak Creek park.

>>   This is extremely important.
>>      
> Could you expand on this please (in private email)?  I will grant you that
archery and siege weapons should be a separate issue due to potential legal
restrictions, but I am not aware that any group needs permission or to be
approved to utilize a public park. I am not sure this is something that
other local groups worry about either.  If there are regulations addressing
this that are a concern I would like to hear them and would be happy to help
you in getting them addressed by the appropriate officers.
>
>    
>>   Siege weapons would be a separate set of recognition(s). I had been
>>   attempting over the years to get just this type of authorization from
>>   the City, which included working up a set of possible scenarios that
>>   would meet the City's requirements - the major stumbling block has
>>   always been the local Target Archery/Siege Weapons community.
>>      
> I can't say for sure what the plans are as I am not a part of them, but I
have not seen anything on the local list regarding actually firing siege
weapons at the park.  I saw something about a combat archery class at
fighter practice, and in the same email something about wanting to start up
a siege weapon class to train people for three commanders.  Nothing
specified directly that this would 1.  Happen at the park or 2. Happen at
the same time as the combat archery class.
>
> Email to the list in June (before location of practice changed) giving
details on new combat archery and possible siege classes.
>
> http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/steppes-ansteorra.org/2010-June/0
> 25100.html
>
> Email to list detailing change in location for class(note it only 
> mentions combat archery, not siege)
>
> http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/steppes-ansteorra.org/2010-July/0
> 25186.html
>
> I am fairly certain that the local populace members that are currently
active are well aware of the change.  I know I don't currently go to the
fighter practice nor am I active in the archery community, but I knew about
the change, etc. So I am fairly certain those active in those activities in
the Steppes are well aware of the change.
>
> Hope this clears up any confusion.
>
> Alasdair
> Member of the populace, not a group officer 
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