[Ansteorra] more belts

HE Chiang Chi-sh h chiang at clearwire.net
Sun Nov 21 16:13:32 PST 2010

  Your Grace,
If I may correct you a bit. On brass and non ferrous metals, to anneal them 
(that is making them softer and easier to work) you need to heat them to 
glowing red, not sure of the actual temperature, then quench them in water. 
Ferrous metals such as steel when you treat them that way they get hard. I 
did some research on it a while back as I needed some annealed brass for a 
project that I was working on. All the brass I had was hard. Found it 
interesting that softening non ferrous was just the opposite for ferrous. I 
have been heat treating steels myself for quite some time now.
  If I can be of any further service, please feel free to contact me off 
  Zia Jian,
  HE Chiang Chi-sh h
  Baron of Bonwicke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <willowdewisp at juno.com>
To: <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 2:28 PM
Subject: [Ansteorra] more belts

> this is sort of what I was talking about; If you want to decorate a plain 
> belt you can use simple tools like a screwdriver to make these endings and 
> belt fold overs..http://www.theinnerbailey.com/belts.htm
> I don't have a torch right now so i have been doing something very bad. I 
> have been annealing my metal with the fire from my stove. i know this  is 
> an fire hazard and we should not do it. I keep something close by to stop 
> fires. i have also burned myself several times. I now wear better 
> protection.
> I buy brass bowls and planters and cut them up to the size I need and then 
> hold them in the fire. Do not drop them into water because this "hardens" 
> them allow them to rest somewhere and cool slowly.
> then you can put them on a somewhat soft material.i have found wood to be 
> good but I have been told leather with do. then You can take a screwdriver 
> and hammer and make the design.
> As you work the brass it will become stiff. It will spread out from where 
> you are working to everywhere. You need to anneal the metal again. If you 
> do not the metal will become brittle and you will poke holes in it.
> I have not tried this with a brass plate, but I am planning on doing it in 
> the week. I will report if the plate looks good.
> willow
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