[Ansteorra] Flails

[John Moore]

http://marshal.ansteorra.org/armored/

On 8/1/2011 8:44 AM, Chris Baran wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> There was a page on the Marshal's portion of the kingdom web page.  I had included written instructions as well as a photos of each step in construction.  Perhaps Count JP still retains this information somewhere.  I believe I had introduced four distinct versions of the weapon.
>
> Count Romanius
>
>
>> From: StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
>> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:50:35 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Flails (was: Questions regarding slings&  Tavern Fights)
>>
>> Is there a paper on this particular "SCA" flail? Directions on
>> building one? Perhaps the actual submission paper, if there was one?
>> Any videos of it being used? or diagrams or photos of this flail?
>>
>> Even though it didn't get approved (this time), it would be
>> instructive to have such material and perhaps someone can figure out
>> how to make it acceptable for SCA use or use this as a starting point
>> in the future. It also has usefulness as a bit of SCA history.
>>
>> I think those that are more interested in medieval weapons and
>> fighting than simply winning in the SCA sport of combat might be
>> interested in this. It sounds like it would affect some fighting
>> styles, just as allowing shots below the knee would.
>>
>> I would be interested in any of these items for inclusion in the
>> COMBAT section of the Florilegium.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Stefan
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:05 AM, John Reuter wrote:
>>
>>> I liked it. The period weapon that was actually used in war and in
>>> lists was a whole different style of fight. Even though shield work
>>> did slow it down, the head could still impact the fighter if the
>>> shield was held to close to the body. The flail was more versatile
>>> than people gave it credit for. I want to make two more like Count
>>> Romanius' just to have an equal weapon for opponents to play with.
>>> Unofficially that is. I wish Ansteorra could have it as a weapon.
>>> Set another FIRST in our society.
>>>
>>> Brian. :)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Jean Paul de Sens<jeanpauldesens at gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I feel that with the last versions of Count Romanius' flails, we were
>>>> getting very close to finding the good middle ground. The design
>>>> that he
>>>> had worked to
>>>>
>>>> a) Hit hard enough to recognize easily when the correct technique
>>>> was used
>>>> b) Was recognizable as not good when the wrong technique was used
>>>> c) Behaved like a chain weapon
>>>> d) Was unlikely to hit overly hard (defined as "harder than a great
>>>> sword or
>>>> unpadded polearm")
>>>>
>>>> They did hit harder differently, so you did see different "dances
>>>> of joy"
>>>> sometimes, but beyond that it was a good design.
>>>>
>>>> Shame they killed the program.
>>>>
>>>> Jean Paul
>>>>
>> --------
>> THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
>> Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/marksharris
>> **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
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