[Ansteorra] To those that would punish, torture or execute the Dutchman Hanse

Sir Lyonel sirlyonel at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 24 11:06:49 PST 2011 

Salut cozyns,

If you can't understand it, you haven't met him. Don't take my word.  
Ask Sir Dieter.

En Lyonel


On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "Daria Riley" <daria at hellsgate-sca.org>  
wrote:

> There has been much talk of his capture and of his treatment (even by
> myself) but nothing about what he is accused of.
> Has Hanse been found guilty of anything that we should speak so  
> harshly of
> him?
>
> Please do not misunderstand, I make no fault with those sentiments  
> that have
> been expressed. I expressed a few myself.
>
> I am merely curious how one man could incur the wrath of so many of  
> our
> Stellar Kingdom.
>
> YiS,
> Daria
>
> Baroness Daria Riley
> Web Minister ~ Stronghold of Hellsgate
> http://www.hellsgate-sca.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ansteorra-bounces+daria=brokenspit.com at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:ansteorra-bounces+daria=brokenspit.com at lists.ansteorra.org] On
> Behalf Of donpieter at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:08 AM
> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] To those that would punish, torture or  
> execute the
> Dutchman Hanse
>
>
> That is a very good question. I have heard reports of slander,  
> claiming the
> baronial throne of Raven's Fort, and other ill deeds. But, I have  
> heard no
> counts of proper examination of the subject nor a writ of guilt and  
> order of
> punishment handed down by a court of the crown. I have only heard of
> subjects sharpening knives, and being on the verge of lighting  
> torches and
> grabbing pitchforks. I believe that ansteorrans are above village mob
> justice. I would hope so in any case.
>
> Pieter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daria Riley <daria at brokenspit.com>
> To: 'Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.' <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 8:59 am
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] To those that would punish, torture or  
> execute the
> Dutchman Hanse
>
>
> Begging Pardon,
> What crimes is he "accused" of?
> D
>
> ----Original Message-----
> rom: ansteorra-bounces+daria=brokenspit.com at lists.ansteorra.org
> mailto:ansteorra-bounces+daria=brokenspit.com at lists.ansteorra.org] On
> ehalf Of donpieter at aol.com
> ent: Monday, January 24, 2011 8:50 AM
> o: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
> ubject: Re: [Ansteorra] To those that would punish, torture or  
> execute the
> utchman Hanse
>
> am sure he has said many a word that was ill choosen hence the lack of
> ove for this creature in this kingdom. But to make a subject of the  
> cown
> atone" for a sin agains the baron of this kindgom he must still be  
> held
> ver for judgement before any such "atonement" be started. I have  
> read much
> n the subject of removing parts of him that are not needed for his  
> work as
> tailor which are in  fact punishment for crimes. This would be a  
> crime in
> tself.
> ieter
>
>
>
> ----Original Message-----
> rom: David Brown <lddevin03 at yahoo.com>
> o: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc. <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> ent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 8:35 am
> ubject: Re: [Ansteorra] To those that would punish, torture or  
> execute the
> utchman Hanse
>
> ieter Rausch...
> is not the Baronial Guards intent to hurt this creature. He has spoken
> arsh
> rds of great concern against our current Baron. We simply want he to  
> atone
> or
> is many sins, after which, we shall place him in your embrace.
> evin O'Donnabhain
>
> ______________________________
> om: Peter Wohlers <donpieter at aol.com>
> : "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> nt: Mon, January 24, 2011 1:09:05 AM
> bject: Re: [Ansteorra] To those that would punish, torture or  
> execute the
> tchman Hanse
> or to capture the man (I use the term lightly) is of none of my  
> matter. It
> lls not in the letters of my warrant. It is when the person (still  
> to good
>
> rd for this creature) is captured, that my job begins. Should the  
> crown or
> eir representative see fit to extract information from it I would be  
> more
> hen
> appy to "press" him for answers. Should they also find him guilty of  
> a true
> rime agains the crown or kingdom and guilt calls for the punishment or
> final"
> nishment, I would be remiss in not performing the duties as spelled  
> out in
> y
> rrant. But should a subject of the crown punish, torture or execute  
> this
> nave
> hey would be duly owing a tax. Also should a subject of the crown  
> put the
> nave
> o harm before a verdict has been handed to him by the court of the  
> crown,
> hen
> at person shall also be held over for examination by the court of  
> the crown
> or crimes against one of their subjects. Until then I await a lawful  
> writ of
> uilt and order for just punishment to be
> anded down from the court so that I may stoke the fire, sharpen my  
> tools
> nd
> t flesh to hemp.
> n dutyful service to the crown,
> eter Rausch
> cutioner to the great Crown of Ansteorra
> ent from my iPhone
> n Jan 24, 2011, at 12:32 AM, Michelle Dodd <lygabrielerdb at hotmail.com>
> rote:
>
> Were I to capture Hanse, I have no desire to kill or maim him.
> However what I would do might be thought to be punishment or even  
> torture
> y
> im, but not by normal, civilized persons.
> I am thinking to start with a hot scouring bath with lots of soap,  
> done by
> me
> lder nuns.
> Or possibly monks would be better suited to make sure he is thoroughly
> lean.
> Then while transporting him in a cage wagon to whichever locale has  
> claim,
>
> elieve it was Raven's Fort?, he would be fed Only bread and  
> vegetables.
> No greasy meats of any kind. I believe the greasiness for which he  
> is so
> ell
> nown is one reason he has proved so hard to capture and hold prisoner.
>
> If I do manage to capture him what 'tax' would you claim?
>
> Lady Gabriele
>
> The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we  
> are
> lowed
> o remain children all our lives. (Albert Einstein)
>
>
>
>
> From: donpieter at aol.com
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:01:26 -0600
> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: [Ansteorra] To those that would punish, torture or execute  
> the
> Dutchman Hanse
>
> Good people of Ansteorra I bid you greetings,
> I have been following your conversation which is interesting at  
> best. Just
> o
>> you all know any subject of this kingdom that would punish, torture  
>> or
> xecute
>> this Dutchman Hanse will owe a tax to myself as authorized in my  
>> royal
> arrant
>> signed by the crown. Happy hunting, I can use the income.
>
>
> Pieter Rausch
> Kingdom Inquisitor and Executioner of Persona
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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