[Ansteorra] How to Trap a Laurel
Ld.blackmoon
ld.blackmoon at cox.net
Wed Jul 27 22:53:51 PDT 2011
greetings
thank you for trying to explain, it can get very frustrating at times , i
once put my very 1st set of arrows in a competition , and was told that i
would have scored better if i had built a backdrop, covered in velvet, to
stand the arrows against, as well as placing a strung period longbow on the
velvet covered table , with both the documentation and a photo album of how
they were made step by step from start to finish. when all i really wanted
to know back then was how well they compared to others arrows : /
anyway if i ever get better at compiling documentation , maybe ill put one
of my hand made longbows out for people to see, same for my leather work ,
untill then its a way to relax, and make people smile when they get things
i've made.
and yes the look on peoples faces when they get them is worth all the work
; )
and now that i'm only holding 1 office , i hope to get back to work on
several projects : )
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zach Most" <clermont1348 at yahoo.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] How to Trap a Laurel
A few things I'd like to be sure are clear- Laurel's Prize isn't a
competition. It's a chance to get constructive feedback on your craft, and
geek out with other folks who love the things you do.
I invite you to explore the judging forms here: http://laurel.ansteorra.org/
which we use for things like Kingdom Arts and Sciences (NOT Laurel's Prize.)
In the static arts form there are points for methods/techniques, materials,
complexity, workmanship/skill, and presentation/overall impression. So the
lion's share of the focus is clearly on the entry itself and how the
documentation supports it, rather than any kind of salesmanship. My own
perspective as a baby laurel of the kingdom- a spartan display is perfectly
fine. People should be able to see and appreciate your work, and I get it
that many appreciate seeing little images of your progress, or the context
in which the piece might be created or used. I'd be thinking of it more like
a museum display than a fru-fru window display at a boutique. The
documentation can provide images of the creation process and explain how it
was used. Think of it this way- even the Mona Lisa is in
a nice frame, but she's not surrounded by candy, scented candles and fancy
fabric.
All that said, I'm not opposed to semi-naked dancing girls.
I don't think I'm betraying any confidences when I say the laurels as a
group are concerned with the space of SCA specific items. Calligraphy and
illumination, and award regalia are things we want to encourage, and see as
an important part of society culture. It can be difficult to judge with our
standard forms if the items aren't constructed with period methods, or
materials. We try to have judges who have walked the same path before you
wherever we can to make it as fair to you as possible. They have a feel for
how hard certain materials are to work, or how much those tools cost.
We're also not solely focused on competitions. They're just one way to show
off your work that works for some folks and not for others. If the best way
to present your award regalia is to have it hang beneath a smiling face of a
new recipient then it sounds like you're doing something great for your
kingdom, your craft and your friends.
Gaston de Clermont
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From: Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] How to Trap a Laurel
greetings
thank you duchess willow for reminding me why I very very rarely enter arts
and sciences competitions, or displays.
there was a time in the sca when the craftsmanship and documentation were
the main judging points on an entry.
but as the laurels have changed so have the " rules " for entry and judging
, so that now instead of craftsmanship, they promote salesmanship .
with some judging forms I have seen giving more credit to display , than to
workmanship.
also , since what I traditionally make are " sca " items, and not " period
items" , the value of my work is again " devalued ", even though I know much
of how my medium was worked in " period " ( yes I'm still learning, and
trying new aspects of that knowledge, but not one of the award regalia's,
bard books, etc.that I have made and given to groups / people, have ever had
a laurel ( or anyone else for that matter ) come up and say " hhmm you could
have done that better " or " have you tried xxx " )
my work and my documentation ( yes I know my documentation skills bite )
should speak for themselves.
it shouldn't take boards, blocks, shiny material, ribbons, balloons, a
juggler and semi naked dancing girls , to get a laurel to come look at my
work, since that has nothing to do with the quality or accuracy of my work
.and is indeed a distraction, from my work .
anyway , just my opinion , but I've heard others give the same reason for
not entering a & s competitions.
have fun at the event , finances won't allow me to go look at peoples work :
(
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur
----- Original Message ----- From: <willowdewisp at juno.com>
To: <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:03 PM
Subject: [Ansteorra] How to Trap a Laurel
> Some of you are thinking about entering the Laurel Prize Tourney and some
> of you are put off by the words "entering" "Tourney" and "Laurel"
> I can hear your thoughts "It isn't hand sewn and I not sure about the
> documentation" "Someone told me never to enter something you like because
> it will get torn apart" " I just started this art form"
> These things are mostly true about Kingdom A&S and the quest for Gulf War
> Champions but They are not true for Laurel Prize.
> First there are No winners. Laurels walk around and admire your things and
> are there to give you helpful feedback and maybe set up further
> Communication.
> You are not winning a prize you are trapping Laurels. If you are lucky,
> out of the Laurels and other artisans you will find people who love your
> art form as much as you do and you will gain a learning and sharing buddy
> Most of us love our arts and crafts and we love learning. We don't do what
> we do to get awards or to win things. We do it just because to us it is
> fun.
> This is what the Laurel Prize is all about. It is chance for all the
> artisans to share.
> Now keeping this in mind I am sure to want to talk to some of the Laurels
> so when you are putting up your display think of it as a laurel trap.
> Number one thing to remember is the Laurel by its nature is shy. You must
> lay in wait.
> They like bright colors and rich fabrics. You are allowed to put things
> out that make your display more interesting. A brightly colored table
> covering or something that goes with the "theme" of your items. Pay
> attention to what you put things in..and try to make things go together
> Try to put your documentation is something that shows an understanding of
> period art and sensibilities.
> Put things at different heights.You can put blocks under your cloth to
> vary the height of objects or you can use stands for your papers. Bring
> pins and wire and fabric that can be used to cover up things that look
> raw.
> Your display should look planned out and "finished" The concept of
> "finished" is one of the hardest concept that Laurels try to explain to
> potential candidates. A"finished" display may be as simple as putting
> something in a different order or tucking the ends of cloth under. I
> suggest laying out your table before bringing things to the event. If you
> can find out the size of the area you will be using.
> Funny --witty things are appreciated but be careful, A joke gone bad leave
> a foul smell that will chase everyone away. .
> the Laurel loves to learn. If your display teaches something this will
> lure the wary Laurel in soon you will have them chatting merrily away and
> having fun and will realize that this feared creature is sort of cute.
> Have cards to give out. Put you name on the table and at the top of
> documentation. Have copies to give out. Ask for people's card. Don't stop
> at Laurels share info with everyone. Your goal should be to have 5 new
> contacts out of this event. People you truly would like to talk to. Build
> bridges with people so if you get down,-up- over to their area you will
> have a contact .
> Friendships that are built around musical interest are often the longest
> lasting friendships.
> Remember, even if you do not know me, I am your Grand Mere, and I will
> help you. Contact me if you are having problems and I will see what I can
> do.
> Duchess Willow de Wisp.
>
>
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