[Ansteorra] Combat Archery Challenge

B Scott Mills b.scott.mills at gmail.com
Wed Mar 23 09:53:10 PDT 2011

The is no way you can do without the authorization.  We have taken this 
to the Society level on a couple of occasions.

When you are shooting at another live person it becomes "combat"  and 
from the Marshals Handbook.

    *II.B.2.* /No person shall participate in Official Combat-Related
    Activities (including armored combat, period fencing, and combat
    archery) outside of formal training sessions unless they have been
    properly authorized under Society and Kingdom procedures. /

So if it is a "tournament" or a "competition"   it is almost impossible 
to call it a "formal training session".

I agree with you that I would NOT want it to be part of a Baronies 
"Archery"  Championship Tournament because it means that so many people 
that traditionally participate in target archery would have to be 
excluded.  However, it does not have to be part of "archery" 
championship and can be a stand alone competition.  I am also mindful 
that Armored Combat, Rapier Combat, Equestrian Activities, etc.  all 
required authorizations before participation so requiring an 
authorization for certain activities should not be a foreign concept to 
our members.    Perhaps  if this catches on  there will one day be 
groups that will formally recognize both a Target Archery Champion and a 
Combat Archery Champion.

Also, as a point of clarification we got permission at the Society level 
to have both Armored Combat and Rapier Combat Archers participate 
together in these tournaments  as long as the weapons are legal on both 
the armored and rapier fields.    So you can have a Armored participant 
in one box and 30 foot away in another box have a Rapier participant.  
There is no risk of them making physical contact and as long as the 
bow/ammo is legal for both fields then it is perfectly OK to mix them.   
This opens the tournament up to a few more participants.



On 3/23/2011 11:13 AM, Doug Copley wrote:
> I like the contest and it looks like it would be fun to compete in!
> I do have a concern about it being used for a Baronial Championship. 
> Since it requires that each participant be fully armored and 
> authorized as a Combat Archer it would seem that it would limit the 
> field of those that could compete significantly.
> At the Barony of Namron's Championship that is held at Beltane we have 
> in the neighborhood of 38 to 40 (in the adult tourney) that compete 
> for the title and with this restriction that number would drop to less 
> than 15 that could compete.
> Is there a way to run it that does not require Combat Archery 
> authorization?
> Have other baronies run it with this restriction and if so how did it 
> affect the participation and the reception?
> YIS,
> Vincenti
> On 3/22/2011 4:57 PM, B Scott Mills wrote:
>> One suggestion for format...
>> http://www.companystsebastian.net/files/boxtourney.htm
>> We have run this a couple of times including at the last Squires Cadets
>> & Arcarius event quite successfully. It's also the format used for years
>> in An Tir to select their Royal Protector.
>> To further entice people to these endeavors if the MiC contacts be at
>> the same time they contact His Excellency then I will provide the
>> makings for two dozen combat bolts to go along with his crossbow.
>> Regards,
>> -EA
>> On 3/22/2011 4:33 PM, Jean Paul de Sens wrote:
>>> So, our armoured archers did awesome this year, but Trimaris will feel
>>> the
>>> sting, and they will be back next year in greater numbers unless we do
>>> something about it. And I'm a "put my money where my mouth is" kind of
>>> guy,
>>> so here's the deal.
>>> If at an event,
>>> a) the archery Marshal in Charge (MiC) will run a combat archery
>>> competition
>>> (rules totally up to the marshal in charge)
>>> and
>>> b) let me know at least two weeks before hand
>>> I will provide a single combat crossbow to be given out as a prize.
>>> The MiC
>>> can give it to the top scorer, or the most promising newcomer, or
>>> whatever
>>> they wish. I leave it up to the MiC.
>>> Comte Jean Paul de Sens

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