[Ansteorra] Same-Sex Consorts
Sir Lyonel
sirlyonel at hotmail.com
Sun Oct 30 22:33:18 PDT 2011
Salut Cozyns,
So what you and Robin are saying is your okay with same-sex consorts
as long as one of them is Queen? So, two women wouldn't bother you,
but if it's two men, one had best look good in drag?
En Lyonel
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On Oct 30, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com> wrote:
> At 02:44 AM 10/30/2011, you wrote:
>
>> Salut Cozyns,
>>
>> So, when Rowan won Crown, who did the "Queen's Champion" fight to
>> protect?
>
> The Queen, of course. The fact that she was the sovereign as well
> was just a cool detail.
>
>
>> Was it a "Consort's Champion"?
>
> Nope. On Sunday morning of Queen's Champion we held a second
> tournament to choose a King's Rapier Champion. (Note that this was
> before the custom of holding the King's Champion tournament on the
> morning of Coronation had started.)
>
> The list of Queen's Champions on the Ansteorran heraldic website
> says Galen Nicolli was Rowans Queen's Champion
> http://herald.ansteorra.org/OP/op-awards.php?submit=List&id=18 and
> that Hector-as-consort had *two* champions: Thorland O'Shea for
> rapier and Patrick Michael Gordonne for armored. http://herald.ansteorra.org/OP/op-awards.php?submit=List&id=12
> It's possible that the list is incorrect and Pat was actually the
> Sovereign's Champion, not the King's Champion; I don't remember at
> this point.
>
>
>> If that happened again, would you voice these same objections?
>
> Why? If there's a Queen, either as Sovereign or Consort, we'll have
> Queen's Champion. If there are two Kings, then things get strange.
>
>
>> Besides, your objections, as stated here, make the assumptions the
>> same-sex Crown and Consort would be two men.
>>
>> En Lyonel
>
> Considering that in the SCA's 46 year history, there has been *one*
> Queen by right of arms and (I think) five or six Princesses by right
> of arms, that's a fairly reasonable assumption to make.
>
> -Tivar Moondragon
>
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