[Ansteorra] Lawsuit, Children, Liability

Janice Kirksey brom_audrella at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 8 05:46:01 PST 2012


I for one would like to see the breakdown for how the money is distributed.....victims get what amount, i'm betting theirs is the least.....lawers get what amount....court cost etc.
Audri
 

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 From: Paul DeLisle <ferretpd at gmail.com>
To: 'Rose' <rose_welch at yahoo.com>; "'Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.'" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Lawsuit, Children, Liability
  
I disagree, Rose. This *IS* about money. 
If it *weren't* about money, the settlement would be a Court-approved
modification to the SCA By-Laws.
I'm sorry to disillusion you, hun...but sadly...it *IS* about money (even
more sadly....mostly for the Lawyers.)

Alden
(Disillusioned himself, more than a decade-and-a-half ago.)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-
> bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Rose
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:36 PM
> To: Ansteorra
> Subject: [Ansteorra] Lawsuit, Children, Liability
> 
> Let's be clear about this:
> 
> This case does not revolve around an isolated incident.
> 
> This case does not revolve around a single perpetrator.
> 
> This case was not brought by a single plaintiff.
> 
> This case was brought by a group of plaintiffs, with their parents, who
> discovered that the SCA has a long history of abusers in leadership roles.
> We're not alone; this problem is familiar to every organization that deals
with
> a vulnerable populace.
> 
> Unlike those organizations, we chose to do nothing. We didn't run
> background checks, we didn't require a two-deep rule, we rarely revoked
> memberships until a conviction was secure. We didn't even bother to send
> out Society announcements when these revocations occurred, a measure
> that may have served to keep us on our toes and would have cost us
> NOTHING. Long after the Boy Scouts and similar organization developed best
> practices to safeguard their children, we did nothing.
> 
> Even after the Schragger case, where twelve children came forward to
report
> abuse, we made NO changes. We didn't update our policies until AFTER we
> were sued by six of children that Lord Ben the Steward, AKA the 'Innocent
> Oak', had molested. That was the point of the suit.
> 
> Do you still think that this lawsuit is about money?
> 
> This lawsuit was about forcing the SCA to adopt standard best practices,
> which we have done. Now that we have done so, we no longer carry the
> same amount of liability that we did before 2007. (And our liability
insurance
> already went up. Some of you folks are really behind the times.)
> 
> The Innocent Oak. That is what the local populace called him and the
symbol
> that they crafted onto items that they sold to raise funds for his
defense.
> Even after his conviction, a reported thirty Scadians showed up to his
'Going
> To Prison' party to wish him farewell. Since then, there have been twenty-
> nine revocation and denial of membership decisions rendered by the Board
> of Directors for conviction of predatory crimes. Twenty-four of these have
> been with regard to abuse of minors.
> 
> Again, let me ask. Are you still thinking about the money?
> 
> I'm not. I'm thinking about a culture of abuse that we allowed to fester
in our
> Society, that contributed to the molestation of at least a dozen children.
> Eighteen percent doesn't seem like a very large payment to rid ourselves
of
> that particular ailment, and it is worth noting that it would have been
> significantly cheaper - in gold and in blood - had we simply seen to the
issue
> when the first symptoms erupted.
> 
> Blaming the children for a lawsuit that centered around the non-actions of
> adults is stupid. Working to punish children in the future for an issue
that was
> corrected in the past is even more stupid.
> 
> And that's my tuppence.
> 
> 
> 
> Lady Rose the Obnoxious
> 
> 
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