[Ansteorra] Royal Huntsman Duties

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Copley" <doug.copley at gmail.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Royal Huntsman Duties


> It all depends on the definition, and I can live with either system or 
> definition.
>
> If the Royal Huntsman is a target archery only and when the Crown goes to 
> the field the RH stays in camp picks their teeth and says "Yo, have a good 
> day, hope you live, see you later!" or when the Crown goes to War do they 
> go with them and stay by their side and shoot anyone that might come close 
> and shoot any opposing archery that looks like they might be trying to 
> shoot at them?

> >>unfortunatly the rh rarely has the option of playing with his teeth, he 
> >>should be busy representing the crowns and archers of ansteorra on the 
> >>missile ranges, and in the grand exibition tourney <<

> Either way can work. If there are 2 of them and / or if Combat Archery is 
> not part of it then there can be NO Combat Archery at all in the RH 
> tourney. This means not even a target variety, it would have no place, no 
> purpose and only serves to confuse and blur lines.

> .>>>agreed <<<

> I think it would be difficult to have 2 champions how would it be done and 
> who would stand behind them, there is not really room for both. the 
> Chivalric Champion has been standing behind the King, the Rapier Champion 
> behind the Queen, and I have been standing between the other 2 Champions 
> (gives me a great view to shoot any who look menacing!).

> >>>actualy that is the easy part , the royal archer stands behind them in 
> >>>war courts, and and the royal huntsman stands behind them in peace 
> >>>courts. <<<<<

> Now, while we are discussing this what about the Chivalric Champion and 
> the Rapier Champion? Should those be broken out? How about a Spear 
> Champion, a sword and board Champion, and Rapier Champion with buckler, 
> one with dagger, one with cloak, and one for two rapier blades?
>
>> uumm why are you comparing peas to apples and oranges ?<<

> For the reign of TRHs, the Royal Huntsman Tourney has been decided on, 
> there are no plans to change it. It is not a requirement for the RH to 
> take the field in melee battle but it is a requirement for them to be 
> versatile and to learn the skill and rules of Combat Archery and to be at 
> least somewhat proficient at it and to demonstrate that proficiency in a 
> duel. There will not be any physical contact between the participants, 
> aside from shooting at each other. They do not need to be authorized 
> fighters. This can be done with study, loaner gear, and spending a little 
> bit of time shooting with it.
>
>>> true ,their highnesses have spoken on this rh tourney, but this 
>>> discussion is about possible future actions , as well as the future of 
>>> both archery comunities, not the current rh tourney <<<

> I would suggest that the Archery community start a new thread on the 
> Archery list to discuss the pros and cons of each plan and come up with a 
> viable alternative and then submit that to the Crown for review. Perhaps 
> there is a way to do it that will satisfy everyone and tourneys in the 
> future could be defined and set that way.
>
>>>actualy a very good idea, the digest people are probably already mad at 
>>>us : (  <<<

> Vincenti
>
> On 2/14/2012 9:15 AM, jim hodek wrote:
>> I have been reading the posts and see many good pros and cons on both 
>> sides of the discussion. Perhaps it is time for we archers to petition 
>> our Crowns to establish a new champion category. As many have said, a 
>> royal huntsman in period was tasked with providing game for the crown and 
>> armies.
>> I have talked to several of our Royal Huntsmen at Gulf War and they have 
>> a hard time meeting the obligations of competing in the target archery 
>> tournaments and being able to support our Crowns on the field of battle 
>> as many activities are happening at the same time.
>> We currently have the award of the Kings Archer for those who show their 
>> prowess in target archery. Perhaps a new championship could be 
>> established for those archers who are strictly combat archers or do both 
>> but would rather support the Crown on the battlefield than at the target 
>> competitions. Possibly call the champion the ROYAL ARCHER.
>>
>> Just my thoughts on it.
>>
>> HL Gunnarr haukr
>> NR Missile Marshal
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Doug Copley<doug.copley at gmail.com>
>> To: Archery within the Kingdom of 
>> Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>; "Kingdom of Ansteorra - 
>> SCA, Inc."<ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:53 PM
>> Subject: [Ansteorra] Royal Huntsman Duties
>>
>> What does a Royal Huntsman do? What are their duties?
>>
>> IMO, the Royal Huntsman has a variety of duties.
>>
>> 1.  The Royal Huntsman is a representative to the Crown and to the 
>> populace for the entire archery community, both target and combat.
>>
>> 2.  Help work as part of their entourage to make the events go smoother 
>> and the courts be easier for everyone involved.
>>
>> 3.  Stand in every court that they can attend.
>>
>> 4.  Protect the Crown both on and off the field. Our wonderful Queen is a 
>> fighter and does not back down from a challenge or a fight. As such she 
>> armored up and took the field in both Rapier and Chivalric, even though 
>> she had never fought Chivalric previously. She got her first kills on the 
>> Chivalric field at BAM. She said that was not enough so she was going to 
>> also do Combat Archery, so one of my duties was to get here ready, 
>> authorized, and take the field with her. Unfortunately, due to an injury 
>> and surgery we have not been able to complete this task, yet. Our young 
>> Princess also plans to take the field and do Combat Archery, so taking 
>> the field with her and being there to help and protect the Crown is 
>> important.
>>
>> 5.  Make plans for possible shoots and tourney formats for the next Royal 
>> Huntsman. Introduce yourself and meet with the Prince and Princess as 
>> soon after Crown Tourney as possible. Find out what they want, have a 
>> proposal for them, and be prepared to run it in whatever format and at 
>> whatever location and time they choose.
>>
>> 6.  Always remember that although it is an honor and title you have won, 
>> it is also a set of duties and expectations that you have accepted. Just 
>> as the Rapier and Chivalric Champions are called forward before the 
>> finals to make sure that they are willing and able to accept those duties 
>> so shall it be with the Royal Huntsman tourney.
>>
>> 7.  No matter what you hear, no matter what you do, when you are with the 
>> Crown you are there for them and for the populace and to perpetuate the 
>> Dream.
>>
>> 8.  Anything else that the Crown may ask:-)
>>
>> Are you good enough to win, are you prepared to make the commitment, and 
>> are you willing to sacrifice some of your time and energy to help the 
>> dream?
>>
>> All archers are invited and I know of some archers that do not plan to 
>> win or are not prepared to make the commitment, but they still want the 
>> opportunity to see if they can even make it to the finals. Come join the 
>> fun, see what happens, see who can win the day!
>>
>> YIS,
>>
>> Vincenti da Murano
>> Royal Huntsman, Kingdom of Ansteorra
>>
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