[Ansteorra] food safety was Re: Underage Participation In The SCA

[Richard Threlkeld]

The laws exempt food sales where only members of the group may purchase and
the group is a non-profit (some caveats). This was passed to allow Boy Scout
units and others to have a bake sales internally without meeting the law.
Pot lucks are immune because nobody pays for the food. 

We probably don't qualify under the member only sales, because we sell
feasts to people who are not paid members.

In Service,
Caelin on Andrede



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-
> bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of James Crouchet
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:24 PM
> To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] food safety was Re: Underage Participation In The
> SCA
> 
> Correct in general, but if it is a non-profit or not-for-profit
> providing food internally, the rules are different in some respects. That
> was part of what Charlie was going to cover in his class.  I wish he had
> gotten the chance to teach it; then whoever took the class would know the
> answer.
> 
> Christian Doré
> On Feb 10, 2012 1:47 PM, "Richard Threlkeld" <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > You need to use a certified kitchen if you charge for the food (IMHO
after
> > reading a lot of law - however, I am not a lawyer). However, that can be
a
> > field kitchen under a tent in the middle of nowhere. The standards you
> must
> > follow relate to hand washing, grey water disposal, handling of raw
food,
> > etc. You can do all that correctly in nearly any kitchen though you may
> > have
> > to bring in tubs to augment their sinks or other such equipment. I have
> > gotten legal paperwork for a kitchen on a scout camp that was under a
> tent.
> >
> > In Service,
> > Caelin on Andrede
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-
> > > bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of James Crouchet
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:25 AM
> > > To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> > > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] food safety was Re: Underage Participation In
> > The
> > > SCA
> > >
> > > > The law doesn't require us to have background checks for children's
> > > officers or that we use a "two deep rule".  So it could be said that
we
> > > could be sued if anyone ever documents that we had a situation where
> we
> > > didn't follow "our own minimum standards".  And yet we still feel that
we
> > > should make these rules mandatory.
> > >
> > > The difference is that the background check and two deep rule are the
> > > common accepted practice for organizations of structure similar to
ours.
> > > For internal handling of food (i.e. we cook for our members, not for
the
> > > public) in not-for-profit organizations,  requiring food handlers to
be
> > > licensed is NOT common accepted practice.
> > >
> > > > I don't see how knowing what the perfect site conditions would be,
> > makes
> > > you guilty if you are forced to use a non-conforming site.
> > >
> > > I think you missed my point.  If you have the license you need to meet
> > the
> > > standards to which you are trained.  If the site does not provide the
> > > equipment necessary to meet the standards and you still use that site
> you
> > > are KNOWINGLY violating those standards.  Liability standards are much
> > more
> > > strict for licensed professionals.
> > >
> > > Christian Doré
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