[Ansteorra] Acceptable to the Crown - Was: Same-Gender Consort Proposal

Salvador Ordoñez salvadorthespaniard at gmail.com
Thu Jul 19 07:49:48 PDT 2012

I agree. And according to the survey that was given a ways back, there seems to be quiet a bit of contention about what would be preferred...

Derek Harris (via iPhone)

On Jul 19, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Scott Fridenberg <fitzmorgan at gmail.com> wrote:

> All entrants to Crown Tournament have to be acceptable to the sitting
> Crown.  The Crown is under no obligation to explain why they find someone
> unacceptable.  I am not privy to the behind the scenes discussions at Crown
> Tournament, but as a long term player in Ansteorra my impression is that
> the Crown's power to deny someone entry into the tournament has been used
> very sparingly and generally quietly.  Since we usually require a letter of
> intent to enter Crown, I would assume that if the Crown found someone
> unacceptable, they would quietly let that person know before the event
> rather than make a scene and publicaly embarrass someone at the event.  So
> potentially people could be denied entry for all kinds of reasons, good and
> bad, and very few people know about it, unless the person denied chose to
> make a fuss about it.   If a Crown chooses to deny someone entry into Crown
> Tournament, this action, as with any action they take as Crown,
> could potentially damage their reputation or lead to unrest in the Kingdom.
> I have never taken the opportunity to discuss with members of the Royal
> Family their beliefs on when it is and isn't appropriate to use this power,
> but I think it would be an interesting discussion to have.
> Robert
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Salvador Ordoñez <
> salvadorthespaniard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm confused... If someone is not fit to sit as crown, wouldn't that be
>> obvious beyond the knowledge of the sitting king and queen?
>> And to be blunt, we need to be adults when it comes to denying crown to
>> someone: If they aren't fit, provide proof. If it holds up, no big. If it
>> doesn't, and it smells like bigotry, then those denying someone the ability
>> to fight for crown deserve ridicule. If it possibly a race thing, all but
>> the fringe would agree on that.
>> <snip>
>> Salvador Ordoñez
>> Derek Harris (via iPhone)
>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Hugh & Belinda Niewoehner <
>> BurgBorrendohl at valornet.com> wrote:
>>> Too true, Robert!  Thank you for pointing that out.
>>> Ismet
>>> On 7/19/2012 8:23 AM, Scott Fridenberg wrote:
>>>> It's worse than that.  You are correct that if a Crown rejects a
>> same-sex
>>>> couple for any reason they are going to catch crap for it, but if they
>>>> accept a same-sex couple there is a good chance that they are going to
>>>> catch crap for that from a different group of people.
>>>> Robert
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