[Ansteorra] Salvador is confused as are a lot of other people it seems
lddevin03 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 19 08:18:58 PDT 2012
Thank you Don Pieter. I have read enough about this topic. Let us get on with something new.
From: Don Pieter <donpieter at yahoo.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:37 AM
Subject: [Ansteorra] Salvador is confused as are a lot of other people it seems
Why yes, Yes you are confused. You are confused if you think that you know anything about the workings of being crown. You are confused if you think that every decision made by the crown has to be public knowledge.
You are confused if you think that using the BS argument that unless we do EVERYTHING period that we can't have some things period is going to do anything other than piss people off and make you look like a dork. Then yes you are confused.
All of you people are confused. If you think your impassioned speeches and hate based messages (the message of "if you are against IE you hate gays") are or will change anyone minds you're wrong. The information about the possible wording change was put forth with a request for commentary to be sent to the BOD. Please stop filling up my inbox with all of your arguments. Start filling up the BOD's.
They want your input.
Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 19, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Salvador Ordoñez <salvadorthespaniard at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm confused... If someone is not fit to sit as crown, wouldn't that be obvious beyond the knowledge of the sitting king and queen?
> And to be blunt, we need to be adults when it comes to denying crown to someone: If they aren't fit, provide proof. If it holds up, no big. If it doesn't, and it smells like bigotry, then those denying someone the ability to fight for crown deserve ridicule. If it possibly a race thing, all but the fringe would agree on that.
> And to those still commenting on the historicity of same-sex crowns, I think we should all go back to not bathing but yearly, eating undercooked food, beating our women and children, paying for indulgences, killing religious dissenters, wiping our asses with our hands, letting livestock roam free in our events, replacing chiurgeons with blood-letters, using live steel in combat, fighting to the death, and invading other kingdoms for rights to land. You know, just to be historically accurate.
> Salvador Ordoñez
> Derek Harris (via iPhone)
> On Jul 19, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Hugh & Belinda Niewoehner <BurgBorrendohl at valornet.com> wrote:
>> Too true, Robert! Thank you for pointing that out.
>> On 7/19/2012 8:23 AM, Scott Fridenberg wrote:
>>> It's worse than that. You are correct that if a Crown rejects a same-sex
>>> couple for any reason they are going to catch crap for it, but if they
>>> accept a same-sex couple there is a good chance that they are going to
>>> catch crap for that from a different group of people.
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